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Pete Buttigieg is the mayor of South Bend Indiana (the home of Notre Dame University). He's a Reserve Navy Officer and Afghanistan veteran.

I never heard of him until to day. But having listened to him speak, he's very Obama-esque in his delivery: young, intelligent, qualifies his statements, and can speak eloquently off the cuff without using rote talking points.

He's gay and has both "Butt" in the spelling of his name and "booty" in the pronunciation. So the jokes will write themselves. Having said that, it's hard not to take him seriously when you hear him speak.

Im all in for inclusivity and were i a citizen i could see myself voting on him easily.

Thing is... what are his chances, really? I would bet in it being highly unlikely before the 2016 run, and given the current political landscape even less likely. Or am i too out of touch?
Thank goodness his name wasn't pronounced booty-gauge! There IS a God...
Unless it actually is pronounced booty gauge and tells everyone its boot-a-jej.

Jokes aside, hopefully he becomes a promising candidate with different views that challenge the current extremes on both sides of the aisle.  We need more constructive discussion, I like what AOC is doing, but I also wanna see not-so-"socialists" engaging in a similar manner.
His sexuality shouldn't play a role at all.
Gore Vidal(gay) was even more eloquent and intelligent. He could not win a major office. Granted, it was the sixties but the homosexuality was a big problem.

Buttigieg has no chance on a national platform.
No, he can't win. First off he is 37, he'd be the youngest president in history, his only political experience is being a mayor of a mid-size city, and finally, his sexual orientation would be targeted into the ground. The media has got us thinking that homosexuality is more accepted among average people than it actually is. Not only would the intolerant people who lean left, not vote for him, but he would guarantee that the right show up in droves on election day to re-elect Trump.
(03-12-2019, 11:20 AM)contrast5 Wrote: [ -> ]Gore Vidal(gay) was even more eloquent and intelligent. He could not win a major office. Granted, it was the sixties but the homosexuality was a big problem.

Buttigieg has no chance on a national platform.

Gore Vidal would win in a landslide if he were still alive today, age wouldn't matter considering the front runner candidates. Honestly, it would make Donald Trump a distant memory.

Being gay would dominate the campaign but I don't think it would be decisive. The most prevalent feeling in the country, the Western world for that matter, is corrupt politicians across the aisle in cahoots with each other serving the elite. The one posing as an outsider has the most chance, however a charade. Buttigieg, as a centrist ie. incremental change, would be a gift to Trump besides him being gay.

The most tiresome theme yet in this election is that Bernie and AOC are described as radicals or extreme. They're not. They're baiscally New Deal Democrats trying to revert Reagan's damage and the neoliberal hellhole to go back to policies that have been proven to work. Example, universal healthcare is already in place with Medicare. It's efficient and the most popular part of government throughout. Expanding it to everyone isn't radical. It's common sense but more importantly, nothing new to America.

Bernie is Jewish, an atheist and a democratic socialist, and despite the current climate, he has the best chance to beat Trump and the Evangelicals. Buttigieg would only have a chance if he had Bobby Kennedy's charisma, lifestory and willingness to piss off the estblishment.
Nobody's going to vote for a guy who bends over and takes it in the ass. What kind of signal would that send to the rest of the world, that the president of the USA takes it in the ass, literally & figuratively? :lol:
(03-12-2019, 01:19 PM)wd40isabadmf Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-12-2019, 11:20 AM)contrast5 Wrote: [ -> ]Gore Vidal(gay) was even more eloquent and intelligent. He could not win a major office. Granted, it was the sixties but the homosexuality was a big problem.

Buttigieg has no chance on a national platform.

Gore Vidal would win in a landslide if he were still alive today, age wouldn't matter considering the front runner candidates. Honestly, it would make Donald Trump a distant memory.

Being gay would dominate the campaign but I don't think it would be decisive. The most prevalent feeling in the country, the Western world for that matter, is corrupt politicians across the aisle in cahoots with each other serving the elite. The one posing as an outsider has the most chance, however a charade. Buttigieg, as a centrist ie. incremental change, would be a gift to Trump besides him being gay.

The most tiresome theme yet in this election is that Bernie and AOC are described as radicals or extreme. They're not. They're baiscally New Deal Democrats trying to revert Reagan's damage and the neoliberal hellhole to go back to policies that have been proven to work. Example, universal healthcare is already in place with Medicare. It's efficient and the most popular part of government throughout. Expanding it to everyone isn't radical. It's common sense but more importantly, nothing new to America.

Bernie is Jewish, an atheist and a democratic socialist, and despite the current climate, he has the best chance to beat Trump and the Evangelicals. Buttigieg would only have a chance if he had Bobby Kennedy's charisma, lifestory and willingness to piss off the estblishment.
Intelligent and thoughtful people don't always win. In my estimation 4 of the last 6 presidents won over opponents who were smarter and better qualified than them. 

I still stick with my assertion that America is not ready for a gay president. People chose presidents for a lot of reasons other than their policies, and one of those reasons is the image they project.  Just like some have said in this thread, a lot of people will have a difficult time picturing a homosexual as presidential material.
If he's got great ideas, I'd vote for him.
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