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tep75
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:49 pm |
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now admittedly file sharing, and video downloads for free has done irreparable damage to the adult industry, but I can't help but too think that some video companies and certain websites brought it on the themselves, by over pricing on some web content they may not fit the bill, or making movies with one quality star and the rest are sub-par in the mix of the movies. Or making too many genres when some movies should be under one category,or possibly the lack of support for fans. Like I've said the whole download factor is to blame, but by how much? I feel, somewhere the porn industry got too big for there own good and thought "we'll be fine just how we are" and never accounted for change. your thoughts?
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nirado
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:45 am |
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nope. file sharing is the culprit 100% responsible.
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swoosh
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:27 am |
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No. It's file sharing. Why would people pay for things they can get for free? Unless you're after something that is hard to get, most kind of porn are easy to get for free from the Internet. Only reason porn is still produced is because people want to see new girls (and pay for it) and constant stream of new girls getting into the industry.
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imperiusrex
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:24 am |
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The industry isn't to blame, but they also didn't make it easy to sympathize for them either. How many times did you get ripped off by misleading boxcovers? Where the people on the box aren't in the video you just bought for 20 dollars? Or how about by stars who look great on a cover in makeup and lingerie and then get the scene and the chick looks strung out on heroin, pasty pale with razor bumps on her bush and in a lackluster scene with some meth head dude who barely gets it up (not that you can blame him...). How about the fact that just about every new movie charged the same price, even though plenty of the shit that was coming out didn't cost more than ten grand to produce? One guy spends twenty thousand dollars on locations and sets and an actual script and another guy just throws a tarp on his garage wall and calls it gonzo and charges 29.95. That kind of shit was ridiculous. Also by movies where they didn't bother to edit, so you get an almost two hour movie, but it's only four sex scenes, or recycled content from the internet (before it was easy to download everything) so they got paid twice for the same dull shit. I'm a thief. I won't dispute it. I've stolen porn and will do so again. But the porn industry screwed the purchasers for years and got away with it. It wasn't illegal, but it was unscrupulous and a completely douchebag asshole move on their part. Again, nobody deserves to have their stuff stolen, and I'm in the wrong when I steal porn and I have no problem admitting that. But the industry didn't mind fucking over the customers for decades. I'm out probably several hundred dollars for bad purchases and rentals over the years (because it's not like you could go back to the neighborhood video store and say "I'm sorry, but this boxcover very clearly has a scene of Rachel Ryan with a black man that is not in the actual VHS I rented- I'd like a refund please..."). So while I'm in the wrong now, I do enjoy some small bit of retribution. But people who are getting their porn in the last few years? Y'all ain't got nothing to complain about. 
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fatboytroy
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:31 am |
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imperiusrex wrote: The industry isn't to blame, but they also didn't make it easy to sympathize for them either. How many times did you get ripped off by misleading boxcovers? Where the people on the box aren't in the video you just bought for 20 dollars? How about the fact that just about every new movie charged the same price, even though plenty of the shit that was coming out didn't cost more than ten grand to produce? One guy spends twenty thousand dollars on locations and sets and an actual script and another guy just throws a tarp on his garage wall and calls it gonzo and charges 29.95. That kind of shit was ridiculous. Also by movies where they didn't bother to edit, so you get an almost two hour movie, but it's only four sex scenes, or recycled content from the internet (before it was easy to download everything) so they got paid twice for the same dull shit. I'm a thief. I won't dispute it. I've stolen porn and will do so again. But the porn industry screwed the purchasers for years and got away with it. So while I'm in the wrong now, I do enjoy some small bit of retribution. But people who are getting their porn in the last few years? Y'all ain't got nothing to complain about.  
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Tokenugguh
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:18 am |
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What swoosh and imperius said. But in the end, people getting a retail product for free will ruin any business.
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sam12six
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:41 pm |
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Like Imperiusrex said, they're not to blame for the fact that file sharing allowed people to get their shit free, but they are to blame for pissing off fans for years and making them more likely to steal content.
What they are completely to blame for though, is not responding to the pressure businesswise that the file sharing has placed on the industry.
Instead of responding with higher quality product at more reasonable (but still profitable) prices to win back loyal customers, they went to the alternative option of scraping the bottom of the barrel to try and reduce production costs. Instead of making the movies interesting with, if not scripts, at least different looking scenes, they give us the same action in the same setting so the only thing IR fans have to look forward to is new girls. Honestly, if they remade the movie 'Friday' with the same cast, script, and setting, why the fuck would anyone pay for the second version?
Unless the industry gets its act together, the only producers who are going to survive are the ones who cater to super narrow niches - the "Fat girl pissing on a bowl of corn flakes while holding a small asian man in a headlock" type shit people can't get anywhere else.
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fatboytroy
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:11 am |
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sam12six wrote: Like Imperiusrex said, they're not to blame for the fact that file sharing allowed people to get their shit free, but they are to blame for pissing off fans for years and making them more likely to steal content. What they are completely to blame for though, is not responding to the pressure businesswise that the file sharing has placed on the industry. Instead of responding with higher quality product at more reasonable (but still profitable) prices to win back loyal customers, they went to the alternative option of scraping the bottom of the barrel to try and reduce production costs. Instead of making the movies interesting with, if not scripts, at least different looking scenes, they give us the same action in the same setting so the only thing IR fans have to look forward to is new girls. Honestly, if they remade the movie 'Friday' with the same cast, script, and setting, why the fuck would anyone pay for the second version? Unless the industry gets its act together, the only producers who are going to survive are the ones who cater to super narrow niches - the "Fat girl pissing on a bowl of corn flakes while holding a small asian man in a headlock" type shit people can't get anywhere else.  Also I'm willing to buy DVD's because I prefer better video quality and watching on my TV. Many clips I watch from online are to decide if I want to buy the DVD or subscribe to the site. But many IR fans are not treated with concern, especially if you're black, so why should we care about their bottom line.
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MaxWidth
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:59 am |
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sam12six wrote: Like Imperiusrex said, they're not to blame for the fact that file sharing allowed people to get their shit free, but they are to blame for pissing off fans for years and making them more likely to steal content.
What they are completely to blame for though, is not responding to the pressure businesswise that the file sharing has placed on the industry.
Instead of responding with higher quality product at more reasonable (but still profitable) prices to win back loyal customers, they went to the alternative option of scraping the bottom of the barrel to try and reduce production costs. Instead of making the movies interesting with, if not scripts, at least different looking scenes, they give us the same action in the same setting so the only thing IR fans have to look forward to is new girls. Honestly, if they remade the movie 'Friday' with the same cast, script, and setting, why the fuck would anyone pay for the second version?
Unless the industry gets its act together, the only producers who are going to survive are the ones who cater to super narrow niches - the "Fat girl pissing on a bowl of corn flakes while holding a small asian man in a headlock" type shit people can't get anywhere else. Haven't logged in here for a while. But I check in regularly. This is SO on the money, I had to respond. Porn producers have pissed on the consumers for so long. It's called Karma. And instead of doing what competent businessman would do, they do what drug addled, incompetent, unprofessional morons would do. Reduce the quality of their product. Fuck them. I feel no guilt filesharing. The best result would be for the scum who dominate the porn industry now to be flushed out and make room for a whole new generation. Like a sports team that "rebuilds". A new generation that actually cares about the consumer.
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Adidas
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:55 pm |
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The internet ruined any business's that had no idea how to handle the internet in the first place.
Unlike the music industry, which felt its own pain for a long time, over profit loses. Aint no body give one good fuck in the government, if vivid or WCP or etc etc, loses a single cent to people like you and me downloading they're porn for free off the internet. How long has the government been trying to destroy the xxx-industry?
Now here comes the internet and file sharing to basically suck away all proft from the industry.
To answer the OP's question. We (and we know who we are) ruined the adult industry, because people like "we" refused to keep spending 20 to 30 dollars a pop on dvds, and instead went to certain peoples threads in this forum and the old one for instance, and decided "let me download that shit for free".
If you was a wee smoker, and could grow your own cess crop, for free, with little to no chance of getting caught, over spending money to buy a bag from your local dealer, what would you do?
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