Vince McMahon Investing $500mil on XFL2
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Kornheiser and Wilbon have taken to calling the AAF the "AAAAAAAAFFFFF". Terrible fucking name.

Both leagues are doomed, but I think the XFL will take the harder hit. They're late, and have poor brand recognition. Ebersol teamed with McMahon on the first iteration of the XFL, and is spearheading the AAF. I wonder what went and got up his ass that he'd try to fuck Vince over this time around.

The NFL is bulletproof. Having said that, football is dying at the youth level as I've mentioned previously. It will be a second rate sport in 20 years, like boxing is now. With no push for youth into a sport, it dies. The MMA is still a marginal success, with proprietors like Dana White keeping his finances a closely held secret. Prize money is a fraction of boxing and careers tend to be short. This is the future of the NFL and hard contact sports generally.
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(06-29-2018, 06:11 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote: This would be like buying a mansion in January of 2008. The football bubble is about to burst, and this is the worst time to be getting in. Less and less kids are playing the sport, less and less kids are following it. Michael Wilbon talked about this. Football is dying.

interesting.

so what are US kids playing / following instead?

or are they just less into sports period?
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It's just a matter of time before we'll see all contact sports banned in all schools due to the head injuries which will in turn kill the big leagues.
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(07-07-2018, 11:42 AM)smithvenables Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 06:11 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote: This would be like buying a mansion in January of 2008. The football bubble is about to burst, and this is the worst time to be getting in. Less and less kids are playing the sport, less and less kids are following it. Michael Wilbon talked about this. Football is dying.

interesting.

so what are US kids playing / following instead?

or are they just less into sports period?


Lebron Vs the Warriors has really revived the NBA in the post Kobe era. There was kind of a dead spot in there for a bit. Also, sadly, lots of kids are playing soccer. LaCrosse (Jim Brown's favorite sport) is making a big comeback at the high school level.

Now you have big name players like Brett Favre calling for contact football to be banned for kids under 14. It's bad.

And, of course, video games. The fatness epidemic in this country is closely tied to the over abundance of kids addicted to games. They suck down pop, chomp on cookies and microwave burritos while they play Call Of Duty until 3am. Who wants to go to football practice after all that?

Football will make money because of gambling. But it really is a Boomer and Gen X sport now. Millennials are going another direction. I hate it, because I love the game, but after Shazier I really sat down and shut my mouth. I can't in good conscience remain the purist I once was.
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(07-06-2018, 11:22 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote: The NFL is bulletproof. Having said that, football is dying at the youth level as I've mentioned previously. It will be a second rate sport in 20 years, like boxing is now. With no push for youth into a sport, it dies. The MMA is still a marginal success, with proprietors like Dana White keeping his finances a closely held secret. Prize money is a fraction of boxing and careers tend to be short. This is the future of the NFL and hard contact sports generally.

It's funny. I feel like the NFL took alot of talent from other sports. Boxing, track and field, ect. The the concussion science is no joke. Parents and kids are seriously reconsidering the sport, there's going to be an influx somewhere. Obviously the NBA and Baseball, but ironically maybe even boxing picks back up lol. But they could just solve the brain injury problem in a 5-7 years and it's not a problem. The real investment would be in a rival sport or a watered down, minimized head contact football in the time being.
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(07-06-2018, 11:22 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote: Kornheiser and Wilbon have taken to calling the AAF the "AAAAAAAAFFFFF". Terrible fucking name.

Both leagues are doomed, but I think the XFL will take the harder hit. They're late, and have poor brand recognition. Ebersol teamed with McMahon on the first iteration of the XFL, and is spearheading the AAF. I wonder what went and got up his ass that he'd try to fuck Vince over this time around.

The NFL is bulletproof. Having said that, football is dying at the youth level as I've mentioned previously. It will be a second rate sport in 20 years, like boxing is now. With no push for youth into a sport, it dies. The MMA is still a marginal success, with proprietors like Dana White keeping his finances a closely held secret. Prize money is a fraction of boxing and careers tend to be short. This is the future of the NFL and hard contact sports generally.
So true.  So sad...
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(07-07-2018, 04:15 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(07-07-2018, 11:42 AM)smithvenables Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 06:11 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote: This would be like buying a mansion in January of 2008. The football bubble is about to burst, and this is the worst time to be getting in. Less and less kids are playing the sport, less and less kids are following it. Michael Wilbon talked about this. Football is dying.

interesting.

so what are US kids playing / following instead?

or are they just less into sports period?


Lebron Vs the Warriors has really revived the NBA in the post Kobe era. There was kind of a dead spot in there for a bit. Also, sadly, lots of kids are playing soccer. LaCrosse (Jim Brown's favorite sport) is making a big comeback at the high school level.

Now you have big name players like Brett Favre calling for contact football to be banned for kids under 14. It's bad.

And, of course, video games. The fatness epidemic in this country is closely tied to the over abundance of kids addicted to games. They suck down pop, chomp on cookies and microwave burritos while they play Call Of Duty until 3am. Who wants to go to football practice after all that?

Football will make money because of gambling. But it really is a Boomer and Gen X sport now. Millennials are going another direction. I hate it, because I love the game, but after Shazier I really sat down and shut my mouth. I can't in good conscience remain the purist I once was.

I'm not denying LeBron/Warriors is popular, but I really don't understand why people want to see that over and over again. Either way, it's now dead and buried, so we can get back to normal basketball now. Also, now LeBron is going to become irrelevant like Kobe was in the last part of his career, maybe all the overrating will stop and he can settle into his proper place in the all time list like Kobe did (people were overrating Kobe back then, too, and saying he was in the GOAT discussion like LeBron, but now he's top 15 at best).

Not sure if kids period should be allowed to give themselves brain damage, tbh. Even with parent's consent, you could argue it's negligent child abuse or something I'm sure. The only reason the NFL has kept this under wraps so long is because of $$$. Plain and simple. Sugar industry, tobacco industry, Big Farma, etc etc etc. It always comes down to $$$ and nothing else. Morality doesn't even enter the picture.

I find it extremely humorous you would lay the blame firmly on video games while in the same sentence listing poor diet and sleep, which are the biggest factors. Yes, I'm not denying that the increased sedentary lifestyle isn't also a big contributing factor, but it's multifaceted and less simplistic than that. I would say video games is too specific as well. A lot of obese people don't play video games. You know what else there is to do now that involves sitting around all day being sedentary besides video games? The internet. YouTube. Netflix. Porn. Texting. Tweeting. Instagram. Facebook. The list goes on and on. I would say smartphones/computers/internet is the overwhelming factor here, not necessarily video games (which is far too specific). Kids (and adults) have a lot more things they can be doing besides playing football now almost everywhere in the United States. And remember, before that it was TV, which started the slow creep to where we are at now (the sugar industry literally bribing scientists to lie and things like cereal which is loaded with sugar that kids ate every day for decades didn't help either).

I believe you're thinking of Gen Z. This is a common misconception among the elderly. Everyone born after 1976 = millennial (not true).

"Millennial or Gen Y: Born 1977 to 1995."

So millennials are aged 23 to 41 right now, anyone below that is Gen Z. Basically, all millennials that could have qualified to play in the NFL already have and the only new NFL recruits at this point would be Gen Z.
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(07-09-2018, 11:21 PM)SWAGGART Wrote:
(07-06-2018, 11:22 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote: The NFL is bulletproof. Having said that, football is dying at the youth level as I've mentioned previously. It will be a second rate sport in 20 years, like boxing is now. With no push for youth into a sport, it dies. The MMA is still a marginal success, with proprietors like Dana White keeping his finances a closely held secret. Prize money is a fraction of boxing and careers tend to be short. This is the future of the NFL and hard contact sports generally.

It's funny. I feel like the NFL took alot of talent from other sports. Boxing, track and field, ect. The the concussion science is no joke. Parents and kids are seriously reconsidering the sport, there's going to be an influx somewhere. Obviously the NBA and Baseball, but ironically maybe even boxing picks back up lol. But they could just solve the brain injury problem in a 5-7 years and it's not a problem. The real investment would be in a rival sport or a watered down, minimized head contact football in the time being.

And do tell, how would that be possible exactly? Extra padding? 

Yeah.

I think we're a bit farther than 5-7 years from being able to regenerate brain tissue - which is exactly what would be needed (and nothing short of that). It's the hardest and last thing we'll be able to do before we solve immortality with a combination of CRISPR, stimcells, cloning, cybernetic implants, etc.
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(08-22-2018, 01:05 PM)whiteisright4bbc Wrote:
(07-07-2018, 04:15 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(07-07-2018, 11:42 AM)smithvenables Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 06:11 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote: This would be like buying a mansion in January of 2008. The football bubble is about to burst, and this is the worst time to be getting in. Less and less kids are playing the sport, less and less kids are following it. Michael Wilbon talked about this. Football is dying.

interesting.

so what are US kids playing / following instead?

or are they just less into sports period?


Lebron Vs the Warriors has really revived the NBA in the post Kobe era. There was kind of a dead spot in there for a bit. Also, sadly, lots of kids are playing soccer. LaCrosse (Jim Brown's favorite sport) is making a big comeback at the high school level.

Now you have big name players like Brett Favre calling for contact football to be banned for kids under 14. It's bad.

And, of course, video games. The fatness epidemic in this country is closely tied to the over abundance of kids addicted to games. They suck down pop, chomp on cookies and microwave burritos while they play Call Of Duty until 3am. Who wants to go to football practice after all that?

Football will make money because of gambling. But it really is a Boomer and Gen X sport now. Millennials are going another direction. I hate it, because I love the game, but after Shazier I really sat down and shut my mouth. I can't in good conscience remain the purist I once was.

I'm not denying LeBron/Warriors is popular, but I really don't understand why people want to see that over and over again. Either way, it's now dead and buried, so we can get back to normal basketball now. Also, now LeBron is going to become irrelevant like Kobe was in the last part of his career, maybe all the overrating will stop and he can settle into his proper place in the all time list like Kobe did (people were overrating Kobe back then, too, and saying he was in the GOAT discussion like LeBron, but now he's top 15 at best).

Not sure if kids period should be allowed to give themselves brain damage, tbh. Even with parent's consent, you could argue it's negligent child abuse or something I'm sure. The only reason the NFL has kept this under wraps so long is because of $$$. Plain and simple. Sugar industry, tobacco industry, Big Farma, etc etc etc. It always comes down to $$$ and nothing else. Morality doesn't even enter the picture.

I find it extremely humorous you would lay the blame firmly on video games while in the same sentence listing poor diet and sleep, which are the biggest factors. Yes, I'm not denying that the increased sedentary lifestyle isn't also a big contributing factor, but it's multifaceted and less simplistic than that. I would say video games is too specific as well. A lot of obese people don't play video games. You know what else there is to do now that involves sitting around all day being sedentary besides video games? The internet. YouTube. Netflix. Porn. Texting. Tweeting. Instagram. Facebook. The list goes on and on. I would say smartphones/computers/internet is the overwhelming factor here, not necessarily video games (which is far too specific). Kids (and adults) have a lot more things they can be doing besides playing football now almost everywhere in the United States. And remember, before that it was TV, which started the slow creep to where we are at now (the sugar industry literally bribing scientists to lie and things like cereal which is loaded with sugar that kids ate every day for decades didn't help either).

I believe you're thinking of Gen Z. This is a common misconception among the elderly. Everyone born after 1976 = millennial (not true).

"Millennial or Gen Y: Born 1977 to 1995."

So millennials are aged 23 to 41 right now, anyone below that is Gen Z. Basically, all millennials that could have qualified to play in the NFL already have and the only new NFL recruits at this point would be Gen Z.

I got some issues with this last part. Whomever you  quoted as saying Millennials started at 1977 was just wrong. If you were born in the 1970s, you're  a Gen Xer. Really, 1982 is probably the best cutoff, maybe 1985. If you can remember the 80s, you're probably a Gen Xer. Millennials are the kids who can't remember a time before the internet, or barely so. They graduated HS in the late 1990s to early 2000s. 9/11 is smack dab right in the middle of their teen years.

The second part is not just participation, but interest. Yes, Millennials watch football. But most don't. Video games are far higher on their interest list. The NFL has been trying to combat this for years, with limited success. Generation Z has an even lower tolerance for the game, in large part because of the politics: football is seen as a patriarchal sport for conservative rednecks.

You add in all the parents who are keeping their kids out of the sport and you have a ratings cliff coming on the horizon for the NFL. It's bad. Real bad.
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(08-22-2018, 04:27 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote: I got some issues with this last part. Whomever you  quoted as saying Millennials started at 1977 was just wrong. If you were born in the 1970s, you're  a Gen Xer. Really, 1982 is probably the best cutoff, maybe 1985. If you can remember the 80s, you're probably a Gen Xer. Millennials are the kids who can't remember a time before the internet, or barely so. They graduated HS in the late 1990s to early 2000s. 9/11 is smack dab right in the middle of their teen years.

The second part is not just participation, but interest. Yes, Millennials watch football. But most don't. Video games are far higher on their interest list. The NFL has been trying to combat this for years, with limited success. Generation Z has an even lower tolerance for the game, in large part because of the politics: football is seen as a patriarchal sport for conservative rednecks.

You add in all the parents who are keeping their kids out of the sport and you have a ratings cliff coming on the horizon for the NFL. It's bad. Real bad.

I quoted it from the top result on Google. I don't know what better way to do it outside of that. I feel like it's mainly subjective where you draw the cutoff. There's too many factors to consider. For instance, let's go by "kids who can't remember a time before the internet or barely so." I would not fall into that category and so would the vast majority if not all of the people I knew growing up around my age. Why? Probably several reasons, one of the main ones being income/poverty level. If you were raised by a single black mom growing up, we're on welfare and could barely afford to have a roof over your head/food on the table/clothes on your back, you probably didn't have the internet until the late 90's/early 00's and at that point it was extremely slow since you could only afford the bare minimum. You definitely wouldn't be sitting on it all day taking an hour to download a 30 second clip of a blowjob or in AOL chatrooms pretending to be a hot lesbian. My entire childhood was devoid of the internet pretty much. It wasn't a thing until the teenage years, so I definitely remember playing outside, riding bikes, getting into trouble as a youth. This would mean the cutoff would probably have to be in the 90's somewhere depending on your financial situation (could your family afford a computer/internet? Were you actually allowed to sit there and use it for any meaningful amount of time? Etc.).

I have no idea about the statistics, but anecdotally, I know plenty of millennials that watch football (both college and the NFL) like a religion. I feel this is more of a culture thing/how one was raised (were your parents big football fans? Did you grow up in a football family?). I never really had any older male figures that watched football religiously like that growing up, so I never got into it, but I have friends who are my age and younger who did and are hardcore football fans.

Personally, at the end of the day, I think these 'generation' things are pretty much arbitrary and it's just another divide and conquer strategy by the people at the top. There's droves of people who are Gen Y and Gen Z that are the polar opposite of what you would expect people from that generation to be. Are they extreme outliers? Or did they just grow up with parents/family that raised them a certain way and that's how they became? If a redneck father raises his son to be a redneck out in the sticks and all he does is go hunting and beat his wife, is he really a millennial just because he grew up during the internet age?
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