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(11-01-2018, 11:51 AM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(11-01-2018, 03:08 AM)elgoman Wrote: Hypocrisy in 1 area doesn't invalidate his argument.

Completely disagree. Hypocrisy invalidates EVERY argument. If you say one thing and do something else you have no integrity. Your authority to judge is completely negated because it tells us that you don't really believe what you're saying.

When evaluating anyone's argument the two things you look for are logical failures and continuity failures. Hypocrisy is a continuity failure. Any argument made by a hypocrite must be immediately suspect.

I wouldn't say EVERY argument, especially if the logic is too on the money. But ignoring those cases, it does greatly diminish your argument rhetorically. If I say don't kill people because A: its just wrong, B: onlookers will like you more, C: others might wanna kill you because your a threat, D: if everyone follows the rule no one will be killed and there will be order, and E: killers should be punished- but then I kill someone, a reasonable person will still follow the rule because reasons C and D are valid incentives, E can still be upheld, and B might still be validated by society since its an interdependent variable. But A... no reason to continue believing it according to the hypocrite. 

Basically, if there's data or risk for individual arguments, reasonable people won't necessarily throw out the whole thing, they'd just keep the good stuff and ignore the more skeptical bits.
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(11-01-2018, 11:51 AM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(11-01-2018, 03:08 AM)elgoman Wrote: Hypocrisy in 1 area doesn't invalidate his argument.

Completely disagree. Hypocrisy invalidates EVERY argument. If you say one thing and do something else you have no integrity. Your authority to judge is completely negated because it tells us that you don't really believe what you're saying.

When evaluating anyone's argument the two things you look for are logical failures and continuity failures. Hypocrisy is a continuity failure. Any argument made by a hypocrite must be immediately suspect.
Your disagreement makes no sense. Let me explain: claiming hypocrisy "invalidates every argument" is a classic use of the "Tu quoque" or "appeal to hypocrisy" fallacy. Your above argument that a black man must be perfect to make an argument against coonery is akin to arguing only a perfectly moral man can claim, "Evil is wrong and we should always aspire to do good". Your argument is bad because any argument's validity, consistency or rightness is determined by the strength of premises, not by personal foibles of anyone who makes the argument.

A man can argue the sky is naturally blue, and be completely right in his argument, even if for all 25 years of that man's life hitherto that man believed the sky was naturally red. Likewise, a man can fail in being problack and still have good arguments for it.  

I'm beginning to revile IR porn, and hate coming on forums like these, because it attracts sellouts looking for reasons to justify their abdication of black duty. Game of Thrones is fiction, and like all fiction there is some contrivation and artificiality, but in this series there is genius too. I respect Stannis Baratheon's ideological stance in GOT books. His favorite quote was, "A man must do his duty"--to his family and to his people.

The quote comes from British naval commanders, who argued that all British men must do their duty and fight for England. The result of the Englishman's sense of duty, peoplehood and fidelity to white people, England, etc was complete control of the seas and the enslavement of black men:

"England expects that every man will do his duty" was a signal sent by Vice Admiral of the Royal NavyHoratio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson, from his flagshipHMS Victory as the Battle of Trafalgar was about to commence on 21 October 1805. Trafalgar was a decisive naval engagement of the Napoleonic Wars.   It gave the United Kingdom control of the seas, removing all possibility of a French invasion and conquest of Britain"

I bring this up to say Black men must do their duty to black women and children, no matter who makes the argument. 
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(11-01-2018, 06:35 PM)elgoman Wrote:
(11-01-2018, 11:51 AM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(11-01-2018, 03:08 AM)elgoman Wrote: Hypocrisy in 1 area doesn't invalidate his argument.

Completely disagree. Hypocrisy invalidates EVERY argument. If you say one thing and do something else you have no integrity. Your authority to judge is completely negated because it tells us that you don't really believe what you're saying.

When evaluating anyone's argument the two things you look for are logical failures and continuity failures. Hypocrisy is a continuity failure. Any argument made by a hypocrite must be immediately suspect.
Your disagreement makes no sense. Let me explain: claiming hypocrisy "invalidates every argument" is a classic use of the "Tu quoque" or "appeal to hypocrisy" fallacy. Your above argument that a black man must be perfect to make an argument against coonery is akin to arguing only a perfectly moral man can claim, "Evil is wrong and we should always aspire to do good". Your argument is bad because any argument's validity, consistency or rightness is determined by the strength of premises, not by personal foibles of anyone who makes the argument.

A man can argue the sky is naturally blue, and be completely right in his argument, even if for all 25 years of that man's life hitherto that man believed the sky was naturally red. Likewise, a man can fail in being problack and still have good arguments for it.  

I'm beginning to revile IR porn, and hate coming on forums like these, because it attracts sellouts looking for reasons to justify their abdication of black duty. Game of Thrones is fiction, and like all fiction there is some contrivation and artificiality, but in this series there is genius too. I respect Stannis Baratheon's ideological stance in GOT books. His favorite quote was, "A man must do his duty"--to his family and to his people.

The quote comes from British naval commanders, who argued that all British men must do their duty and fight for England. The result of the Englishman's sense of duty, peoplehood and fidelity to white people, England, etc was complete control of the seas and the enslavement of black men:

"England expects that every man will do his duty" was a signal sent by Vice Admiral of the Royal NavyHoratio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson, from his flagshipHMS Victory as the Battle of Trafalgar was about to commence on 21 October 1805. Trafalgar was a decisive naval engagement of the Napoleonic Wars.   It gave the United Kingdom control of the seas, removing all possibility of a French invasion and conquest of Britain"

I bring this up to say Black men must do their duty to black women and children, no matter who makes the argument. 
100.  I am beginning to notice that the forum is increasingly dividing into 2 camps, out right sellouts and blacks with a spine. I noticed there was an influx of pro-black posters over the last 1-2 years, before this place was sellout central and I was getting banned constantly.  I will say since shotgun took over, there has been more freedom allowed on the board.
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(11-02-2018, 01:52 AM)Shotgun Styles Wrote: I've been on this board for something like 15 years. There is a wide variety of opinion. What you see are the people who like to argue, not the full spectrum of the membership.

Exactly! Some times, people forget that we come here for some fun time,
and we don't care about starting a fight.
Nothing to gain from that, except some self-gratification.

If sticking it to an unknown person in another state, country, or even continent, is the definition of manhood,
then I am a lesser man for not wanting to do it.

Also, usually, the more opinionated a person seems, the less intelligent and informed he is.
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(11-01-2018, 09:03 PM)Ipay4 Wrote:
(11-01-2018, 06:35 PM)elgoman Wrote:
(11-01-2018, 11:51 AM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(11-01-2018, 03:08 AM)elgoman Wrote: Hypocrisy in 1 area doesn't invalidate his argument.

Completely disagree. Hypocrisy invalidates EVERY argument. If you say one thing and do something else you have no integrity. Your authority to judge is completely negated because it tells us that you don't really believe what you're saying.

When evaluating anyone's argument the two things you look for are logical failures and continuity failures. Hypocrisy is a continuity failure. Any argument made by a hypocrite must be immediately suspect.
Your disagreement makes no sense. Let me explain: claiming hypocrisy "invalidates every argument" is a classic use of the "Tu quoque" or "appeal to hypocrisy" fallacy. Your above argument that a black man must be perfect to make an argument against coonery is akin to arguing only a perfectly moral man can claim, "Evil is wrong and we should always aspire to do good". Your argument is bad because any argument's validity, consistency or rightness is determined by the strength of premises, not by personal foibles of anyone who makes the argument.

A man can argue the sky is naturally blue, and be completely right in his argument, even if for all 25 years of that man's life hitherto that man believed the sky was naturally red. Likewise, a man can fail in being problack and still have good arguments for it.  

I'm beginning to revile IR porn, and hate coming on forums like these, because it attracts sellouts looking for reasons to justify their abdication of black duty. Game of Thrones is fiction, and like all fiction there is some contrivation and artificiality, but in this series there is genius too. I respect Stannis Baratheon's ideological stance in GOT books. His favorite quote was, "A man must do his duty"--to his family and to his people.

The quote comes from British naval commanders, who argued that all British men must do their duty and fight for England. The result of the Englishman's sense of duty, peoplehood and fidelity to white people, England, etc was complete control of the seas and the enslavement of black men:

"England expects that every man will do his duty" was a signal sent by Vice Admiral of the Royal NavyHoratio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson, from his flagshipHMS Victory as the Battle of Trafalgar was about to commence on 21 October 1805. Trafalgar was a decisive naval engagement of the Napoleonic Wars.   It gave the United Kingdom control of the seas, removing all possibility of a French invasion and conquest of Britain"

I bring this up to say Black men must do their duty to black women and children, no matter who makes the argument. 
100.  I am beginning to notice that the forum is increasingly dividing into 2 camps, out right sellouts and blacks with a spine. I noticed there was an influx of pro-black posters over the last 1-2 years, before this place was sellout central and I was getting banned constantly.  I will say since shotgun took over, there has been more freedom allowed on the board.

I'm still trying to, after reading your posts on this thread, figure out what you're doing here. Not saying that you don't have the right. Don't get me wrong. But could it mean that you are just as flawed as the 'sellouts' you detest?
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^How so, how I am as flawed as a sellout? (this will be interesting)
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#27
I just read this thread and couldn't stop chuckling to myself & SMH. Isn't it ridiculously laughable that you have pro-black e-milliants like Ipay4 & elgoman posting on a IR porn forum?

They come off hypocritical, confused, & just sound like clowns talking that militant pro-black nonsense on this forum of all fourms.

On the other hand, I do agree with them on the Cosby stuff discussed in this thread.
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(10-14-2018, 10:18 AM)blacksquatchman Wrote: That "black power" guy reminded me of Tariq Nasheed and many of these so Malcolm X wannabe youtubers. Pointing Black Power with one fist and playing with his white lover's privates with his other hand. I even heard rumors that Phil from The Advise Show channel has a white wife.

If you're preaching Black Power this and White Supremacy that and you got a white gf/wife, I can't take you seriously.

I agreed when someone said about black women being super judgmental about brothas dating/married outside their race while they praised Serena Williams, Megan Markle, and Eve for doing the exact same thing. I remember a comment from somebody regarding this issue:

"When a black woman dates outside her race she's being universally praised and when a black man dates outside his race he hates his mother."

(10-15-2018, 04:37 AM)Ipay4 Wrote: Apparently she looks white but he posted her dna test and it showed she was like 67% native indian.  But it is still disappointing
IsTariq married to a white woman?
No, Tariq Nasheed's Wife, Peanut, is biracial. But Tariq Nasheed haters online do give him shit for having a white Jewish Mother-in-law.
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(12-19-2018, 03:44 AM)satam55 Wrote: I just read this thread and couldn't stop chuckling to myself & SMH. Isn't it ridiculously laughable that you have pro-black e-milliants like Ipay4 & elgoman posting on a IR porn forum?

They come off hypocritical, confused, & just sound like clowns talking that militant pro-black nonsense on this forum of all fourms.

On the other hand, I do agree with them on the Cosby stuff discussed in this thread.

How so.
How is it a clown to be pro-black when everyone is trying to destroy you just for being black.
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(12-19-2018, 03:44 AM)satam55 Wrote: I just read this thread and couldn't stop chuckling to myself & SMH. Isn't it ridiculously laughable that you have pro-black e-milliants like Ipay4 & elgoman posting on a IR porn forum?

They come off hypocritical, confused, & just sound like clowns talking that militant pro-black nonsense on this forum of all fourms.

On the other hand, I do agree with them on the Cosby stuff discussed in this thread.

(01-26-2019, 02:17 PM)Ipay4 Wrote:
(12-19-2018, 03:44 AM)satam55 Wrote: I just read this thread and couldn't stop chuckling to myself & SMH. Isn't it ridiculously laughable that you have pro-black e-milliants like Ipay4 & elgoman posting on a IR porn forum?

They come off hypocritical, confused, & just sound like clowns talking that militant pro-black nonsense on this forum of all fourms.

On the other hand, I do agree with them on the Cosby stuff discussed in this thread.

How so.
How is it a clown to be pro-black when everyone is trying to destroy you just for being black.

You're literally a regular poster on a IR Porn forum telling other BM on this forum that they shouldn't be romantically-involved/marry/pro-create with non-BW. You stance & this forum your posting on is a complete contradiction.
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