How has "Blacked.com" influenced mainstream TV programming's acceptance of IR sex?
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(12-05-2018, 09:01 PM)kcjones Wrote: I feel like Blacked.com is the new face of Porn.

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#12
Okay, y'all mad about the TV writers making changes from the Walking Dead comics (and sometimes they should have) but that's feelings, I'm talking facts.
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^ Those are facts they made those changes and those changes were based on feelings. And looking at the comics and the changes they made, I would only be able to assume by "should" you mean you are in favor of rewriting things so that they offend as few people as possible because that's what the brunt of the changes were designed to do.
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(12-06-2018, 09:05 AM)whiteisright4bbc Wrote: ^ Those are facts they made those changes and those changes were based on feelings. And looking at the comics and the changes they made, I would only be able to assume by "should" you mean you are in favor of rewriting things so that they offend as few people as possible because that's what the brunt of the changes were designed to do.

Ah, okay, so you're assuming their intentions as well as mine. I see. There's no rule about shows having to adhere to source material line for line, plot for plot. The first few TWD seasons differed wildly from the comics. I wasn't a huge fan of Frank Darabont's run, but he did make efforts to tackle race head on in the first season (Darryl's brother being a racist, the first group they found protecting the nursing home, etc). He did more than any of the subsequent showrunners, who basically ignored race despite introducing several POC. Some speculative fiction creatives seem to be of the opinion that the things that divide us now are just going to fall away when some major event occurs.

And Kirkman's original portrayal of Michonne, inadvertently causing Carol's suicide and basically being a hoe, was pretty retro. The TV Michonne is a better character. So is Carol.

The producers didn't say much about the Tyreese/T-Dogg issue early on. The only clues are Chad Coleman saying Kirkman told him that he had been looking to cast him as Tyreese for a year, so that was when they were still in season 2.
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(12-06-2018, 10:38 AM)bakajin Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 09:05 AM)whiteisright4bbc Wrote: ^ Those are facts they made those changes and those changes were based on feelings. And looking at the comics and the changes they made, I would only be able to assume by "should" you mean you are in favor of rewriting things so that they offend as few people as possible because that's what the brunt of the changes were designed to do.

Ah, okay, so you're assuming their intentions as well as mine. I see. There's no rule about shows having to adhere to source material line for line, plot for plot. The first few TWD seasons differed wildly from the comics. I wasn't a huge fan of Frank Darabont's run, but he did make efforts to tackle race head on in the first season (Darryl's brother being a racist, the first group they found protecting the nursing home, etc). He did more than any of the subsequent showrunners, who basically ignored race despite introducing several POC. Some speculative fiction creatives seem to be of the opinion that the things that divide us now are just going to fall away when some major event occurs.

And Kirkman's original portrayal of Michonne, inadvertently causing Carol's suicide and basically being a hoe, was pretty retro. The TV Michonne is a better character. So is Carol.

The producers didn't say much about the Tyreese/T-Dogg issue early on. The only clues are Chad Coleman saying Kirkman told him that he had been looking to cast him as Tyreese for a year, so that was when they were still in season 2.
I thought the first two seasons' handling of race were cheesy.  A lot of racism would fall by the wayside after a apocalyptic event.  But there will be people whose racism will only fuel them.  Negan should have been a former Klan member trying to resurrect the KKKK.  He would have been a better and more unique villain, and a post apocalyptic KKK would make a much better story, as characters like Darryl could feel conflicted.  TV show Carol was no different than T-Dogg.  Once they fired the Andrea actress, they were forced to morph Carols character into the Andrea role.
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(12-06-2018, 10:38 AM)bakajin Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 09:05 AM)whiteisright4bbc Wrote: ^ Those are facts they made those changes and those changes were based on feelings. And looking at the comics and the changes they made, I would only be able to assume by "should" you mean you are in favor of rewriting things so that they offend as few people as possible because that's what the brunt of the changes were designed to do.

Ah, okay, so you're assuming their intentions as well as mine. I see. There's no rule about shows having to adhere to source material line for line, plot for plot. The first few TWD seasons differed wildly from the comics. I wasn't a huge fan of Frank Darabont's run, but he did make efforts to tackle race head on in the first season (Darryl's brother being a racist, the first group they found protecting the nursing home, etc). He did more than any of the subsequent showrunners, who basically ignored race despite introducing several POC. Some speculative fiction creatives seem to be of the opinion that the things that divide us now are just going to fall away when some major event occurs.

And Kirkman's original portrayal of Michonne, inadvertently causing Carol's suicide and basically being a hoe, was pretty retro. The TV Michonne is a better character. So is Carol.

The producers didn't say much about the Tyreese/T-Dogg issue early on. The only clues are Chad Coleman saying Kirkman told him that he had been looking to cast him as Tyreese for a year, so that was when they were still in season 2.

You really think Carol killed herself because of what Michonne did? What about Tyrese? He gets no blame? Even still, I wouldn't put blame on either, but more on her own weakness (or should I say the weakness of Kirkman's writing). But I agree, Kirkman has had lots of poor writing and that instance was one of them (Michonne just basically being an unashamed hoe, uncaring of whether the men she targeted were in relationships or not). I do like the tv Michonne better than the comic one by far (not particularly fond of comic Michonne, or a lot of characters who are loved in the show like Glenn, Maggie, etc).

Carol, I would say, is more of a mixed bag for me. In the comics, she never really takes off. In the show, she starts off weak like in the comics, but then randomly morphs into a Rambo type character, which is pretty unrealistic, IMO. I know they tried to make her character (and Sasha's to a degree) replace comic Andrea, but they went a little too over the top with it (partly because they nerfed down some of the other characters like Michonne, Rick, Carl, etc and someone had to do some of the crazy shit they did in the comics, so why not female Rambo over here).

How are Tyrese and T-Dogg related other than that they are both Black? The shows' writers made T-Dogg a pretty useless character and made Tyrese a complete pussy unlike in the comic. Both very unsatisfying characters overall.
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Well not to derail my own thread lol . . . but I suspect that a number of TV execs have premium memberships to sites like Blacked and Blacked RAW which they may hide or even share with their wives at home. They have witnessed the blockbuster commercial success of it and are more open to financing shows with an IR focus. Like twenty years ago or even ten years ago we could barely get ANY IR focused shows on the air remember?? Dixon on 90210 was only allowed to enjoy ONE piece of high school white girl pussy in THREE years at 90210 . . . that was all the powers that be could tolerate in 2008. In 2006, "Friday Night Lights" teased the IR community with Smash the stud Black tailback of the #1 ranked Dillion Tigers ~ https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjbv8WDhIzfAhXo4IMKHWykCyoQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvelodromodimontichiari.com%2Ffriday-night-lights-tyra-college-essay-video&psig=AOvVaw1pFj4rZ501W-97c88B2e97&ust=1544214122585999.

Smash NEVER got to hit this tall Blonde Tyra or anyone else on this hit series becuase the TV executive on NBC would not finance such IR lust (SMDH).

Now on "Legacies" which airs tonight on the CW at 9:00 we will witness numerous beautiful white girls who have the consent of the corporate executives to let their freak flags fly and take long, thick black dick right there on the prep school campus lol. Times they are a changing I say and for the better: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjrqa2GhYzfAhVTqoMKHYchBt0QjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mnnofa.com%2F2018%2F12%2F06%2Flegacies-star-on-josies-romances-and-love-triangle-with-rafael-and-lizzie%2F&psig=AOvVaw1apeGVOefvUdzWsxsIfoGe&ust=1544214377574707.

If we don't express our support for these IR-focused shows then I feel that the powers that be the powers that financed "The Innocents" on Netflix or "Sacred Lies" on Facebook Watch will just go back to the old tried and true . . . cast a "Chad" or a "Wells" to be the male paramour rather than a Black male Sad
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#18
You're reaching. Blacked has reshaped PORN but its influence on real life is negligible. Lansky copies his style from mainstream, not the other way around. Youre giving that site way too much credit.
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I don't think Blacked is responsible, I think in general this whole "golden age of TV" is a recent thing. Shows like The Sopranos or The Wire helped kickstart the whole golden age, back in the day only HBO was doing was very risky and bold shit, nowadays everyone does what they did. That includes IR stuff.

"In the five years between 2011 and 2016, the number of scripted television shows, on broadcast, cable and digital platforms increased by 71%. In 2002, 182 television shows aired, while 2016 saw 455 original scripted television shows with an additional increase projected for 2017"

It's not just BMWF. every sorts of ir couples get represented. Don't even get me started on LGBTQ+ crowd. TV nowadays is just not afraid to show anything. Blacked, and every porn studio is definetaly happy what's going on in TV right now.
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(12-06-2018, 12:31 PM)whiteisright4bbc Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 10:38 AM)bakajin Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 09:05 AM)whiteisright4bbc Wrote: ^ Those are facts they made those changes and those changes were based on feelings. And looking at the comics and the changes they made, I would only be able to assume by "should" you mean you are in favor of rewriting things so that they offend as few people as possible because that's what the brunt of the changes were designed to do.

Ah, okay, so you're assuming their intentions as well as mine. I see. There's no rule about shows having to adhere to source material line for line, plot for plot. The first few TWD seasons differed wildly from the comics. I wasn't a huge fan of Frank Darabont's run, but he did make efforts to tackle race head on in the first season (Darryl's brother being a racist, the first group they found protecting the nursing home, etc). He did more than any of the subsequent showrunners, who basically ignored race despite introducing several POC. Some speculative fiction creatives seem to be of the opinion that the things that divide us now are just going to fall away when some major event occurs.

And Kirkman's original portrayal of Michonne, inadvertently causing Carol's suicide and basically being a hoe, was pretty retro. The TV Michonne is a better character. So is Carol.

The producers didn't say much about the Tyreese/T-Dogg issue early on. The only clues are Chad Coleman saying Kirkman told him that he had been looking to cast him as Tyreese for a year, so that was when they were still in season 2.

You really think Carol killed herself because of what Michonne did? What about Tyrese? He gets no blame? Even still, I wouldn't put blame on either, but more on her own weakness (or should I say the weakness of Kirkman's writing). But I agree, Kirkman has had lots of poor writing and that instance was one of them (Michonne just basically being an unashamed hoe, uncaring of whether the men she targeted were in relationships or not). I do like the tv Michonne better than the comic one by far (not particularly fond of comic Michonne, or a lot of characters who are loved in the show like Glenn, Maggie, etc).

Carol, I would say, is more of a mixed bag for me. In the comics, she never really takes off. In the show, she starts off weak like in the comics, but then randomly morphs into a Rambo type character, which is pretty unrealistic, IMO. I know they tried to make her character (and Sasha's to a degree) replace comic Andrea, but they went a little too over the top with it (partly because they nerfed down some of the other characters like Michonne, Rick, Carl, etc and someone had to do some of the crazy shit they did in the comics, so why not female Rambo over here).

How are Tyrese and T-Dogg related other than that they are both Black? The shows' writers made T-Dogg a pretty useless character and made Tyrese a complete pussy unlike in the comic. Both very unsatisfying characters overall.

If you recall, there was a lot of chatter in the first season regarding whether "T-Dogg" was supposed to be Tyreese, or was supposed to supplant Tyreese. Fans of the book were asking but the producers weren't talking until near the end of the season when they finally came out and said his name was "Theodore." I got the feeling -- as did some others -- that T-Dogg was just a placeholder for "the black guy" until they found an actor for Tyreese.

Neither Tyreese nor Michonne gets "blamed" as they were only characters doing the bidding of the writer. Kirkman gets the blame for making this alleged attorney act like his fantasy of a Strong Black Woman™ and for making the previously virtuous Tyreese just drop his morals because he was about to get lid. It was bad writing, especially given the preexisting stereotypes. For me, TV Michonne is not much better (because she never, ever talks, acts or thinks like a lawyer) but at least she's got more depth. But look at whose playing her . . . that's probably where the depth comes from.

Carol is really a never-was in the comics who gained life in the show through being gifted a good storyline. They had Ed beat her just so Shane could show his character by beating the crap out of Ed. Comic book Carol's husband was already dead. So then, they didn't "make" her a Rambo, the two characters are completely different. Trying to draw in viewers, female viewers, giving the "weak" character an arc is one good way.
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