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#51
Looking forward to what AEW does to change the wrestling landscape. WWE fears competition but I think they will benefit in the long run. Competition spurred on their greatest period of popularity and when that ended things slowly began to decline for them.
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#52
WWE's ratings are in freefall. Nobody seems to know why.

Any thoughts?
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#53
Several factors, lemme nerd out for a second:

The internet, as it has in virtually every other industry, had a significant effect the WWE hasn't been able to counter. It used to be, if you couldn't watch the PPV on Sunday, you wouldn't find out about results until the following Monday at the very earliest. Now matches are practically being live tweeted and no results, even in dark matches, stay hidden for long.

The company has stagnated at the very top. McMahon is clearly no longer at the height of his powers, which at the best of times, tbh, weren't always that laudable. Whoever is actually calling the shots needs to step down and let someone else take the helm. As an example, there was an article I read a few months back that said the word "mark" wasn't allowed in the writers room. WTF? If the writers can't even openly discuss a large and growing portion of the fanbase, they're hobbled from the word go. And that's just one example.

There's a lack of real competition. Not that WCW ever really presented a true threat, but there was a time they consistently lead the Monday Night Wars. Once Vince was able to absorb them and the bits of that stable he wanted to keep, and there was no one else to push him, the product fell off. Hard. There are some good smaller outfits in the US and Japan, but even combined, they couldn't take on the WWE's 800 pound gorilla.

The personalities are lacking, and the few that are left are too old to be as impactful as they once were. Who in this current stable has the appeal of even an Eddie Guerrero at his height, much less a real superstar like 1997 Undertaker or 1999 Stone Cold Steve Austin? There's currently no face to the franchise as far as I can see, and I'd argue Cena is that latest -and last- to fit that archetype.

Wrestling is fake. Meaning the outcomes are predetermined. But the athleticism is very real, and the potential for injury is, as well. The WWE knows this, and because of the backlash against things like TBI, especially given how big the Chris Benoit tragedy was, they've watered down the risk in the product making it a bit more boring to watch. I'm not saying they should do a repeat of the 97 Hell in a Cell, but this is a contact "sport", let these guys take some big knocks every now and again.

The economy is absolute shit for anyone making less than $100k a year, depending on where you live and your specific situation. Wrestling has ALWAYS, at least in this country, been a lower middle/working class diversion. The exact people who don't have $200 for tickets or $60-70 for PPV.

I could go on; the rise of MMA, the NFL and especially college football sucking the oxygen out of the room when it comes to impact sports, parents being overly cautious with their children's intake of "violence", the rise in video game and gaming culture. There just isn't that much room for wrestling anymore.
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#54
Results from MITB

Bayley wins Women's Money in the Bank, which was a big shocker because I wanted Mandy Rose to win it

Rey Mysterio beat Samoa Joe to become the new United States Championship

Shane McMahon beat The Miz

Tony Nese beat Ariya Daivari to retain the Cruiserweight Championship

Becky Lynch beat Lacey Evans to retain the Raw Woman Championship and the second match Charlotte Flair beats Becky Lynch to win the Smackdown Woman Championship. after the match Lynch attack Lacey Evan but both Flair and Evans attack Lynch. Bayley came in with her MITB briefcase and cash in. She beat Flair to win the Smackdown Woman Champion.

Roman Reigns beat Elias

Seth Rollins beats AJ Styles to retain the Universal Championship, one of the best matches of the night but was too busying watch GOT

Kofi Kingston beats Kevin Owen to retain the WWE Championship

Brock Lesnar wins the Men's Money in the Bank the match went goo until Brock came in a got the briefcase. Seriously, Vince, this is why Triple H need to take over the WWE. I can't waited what AEW has next Saturday
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#55
With the recent passing of Ashley Massaro, the story of her life just got darker...

" Ashley Massaro recently died. Her affadavit when she sued WWE includes her being encouraged by Vince McMahon not to report that she was drugged and raped by US military staff while on tour in Kuwait. Content warning - this is sickening reading. (1/2) "

https://twitter.com/ChrisBrosnahan/statu...0492198912
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(05-21-2019, 12:17 PM)Spawn Wrote: With the recent passing of Ashley Massaro, the story of her life just got darker...

" Ashley Massaro recently died. Her affadavit when she sued WWE includes her being encouraged by Vince McMahon not to report that she was drugged and raped by US military staff while on tour in Kuwait. Content warning - this is sickening reading. (1/2) "

https://twitter.com/ChrisBrosnahan/statu...0492198912
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This rape allegation is extremely suspicious to say the least. 

First of all, soldiers live under the constant thread of UCMJ. It's not like the cops who do what the fuck they want without consequence. We don't get no free passes. And the Army in particular has a weed up it's ass about sexual assault. So keep that in mind when listening to this story: you get caught and it's not some slap on the wrist like a cop might  get. It's 20 years in Leavenworth. 

And under those circumstances you're going to rape A FAMOUS PERSON

I don't buy it. This would have to be the single stupidest person (and accomplice) in the entire Army.
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(05-21-2019, 04:01 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(05-21-2019, 12:17 PM)Spawn Wrote: With the recent passing of Ashley Massaro, the story of her life just got darker...

" Ashley Massaro recently died. Her affadavit when she sued WWE includes her being encouraged by Vince McMahon not to report that she was drugged and raped by US military staff while on tour in Kuwait. Content warning - this is sickening reading. (1/2) "

https://twitter.com/ChrisBrosnahan/statu...0492198912
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This rape allegation is extremely suspicious to say the least. 

First of all, soldiers live under the constant thread of UCMJ. It's not like the cops who do what the fuck they want without consequence. We don't get no free passes. And the Army in particular has a weed up it's ass about sexual assault. So keep that in mind when listening to this story: you get caught and it's not some slap on the wrist like a cop might  get. It's 20 years in Leavenworth. 

And under those circumstances you're going to rape A FAMOUS PERSON

I don't buy it. This would have to be the single stupidest person (and accomplice) in the entire Army.

Or it could be CTE
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a...-donation/

She was one of the former WWE wrestlers who try to file a lawsuit against them but it was drop last year
https://whatculture.com/wwe/wwe-class-ac...-dismissed

This is the same things happen to Chris Benoit when he brains trauma because he used the flying headbutt off the top rope a few times (watch WWE Network of some old ECW, WCW, and WWE matches when he used it). This is the same thing happen to NFL players in all.
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