WTF Liam Neeson
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(02-06-2019, 11:34 AM)wd40isabadmf Wrote: The bar has been set so low. You've decided to not murder someone based on nothing but the color of the skin. This is supposed to generate what exactly? Empathy, sympathy or whatever the fuck that has been lately decided to understand/normalize the psychology of the racist mind. For what, for managing to comprehend basic causation which took you a fucking week, no less?

What, exactly, will this persistent fetish of engaging with how racists think, add to debate? There is absolutely nothing to gain from this. He should've kept it himself and his therapist. I don't give a damn that he realized that it was wrong and even less so that it showed the naked truth that this happens in society. All it will do is generate emotional reaction on this mf and him alone, who gives a fuck about his epiphany?

That's why the only thing that genuinely pisses me off is how this neatly sits right next to the NYT giving Nazis a goddamn editorial of them doing groceries. Anything to give it a more human face while racism literally dehumanizes human beings which made it possible for Neeson to have thought like this. A deliberate vicious circle.

Where are the articles/editorials of white men and women who engage in antiracism and face hostilities from people and the government. You're lucky if that even gets a footnote. That's what helps the debate. Those are the only white people I want to see discussing racism along with black people with a similar set of mind. Not a back and forth on whether or not he evolved on the matter or a useless discussion on forgiveness. Stop worshiping celebrities, give unsung heroes a platform.

White society has no desire to glorify or give a platform to white people who go off the white race code and fight white racism.  The reason why they don't even mentioned people like Thaddeus Stevenes and Charles Sumner in American history books is because they don't want the idea out that if a white person does something positive towards fighting racism they can be great.  They want to fill the history book with white vile racist and name everything after them so that the white child can learn early on if he wants to be great he must mistreat black people like all the whites he is taught about.
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(02-07-2019, 09:24 PM)Ipay4 Wrote: White society has no desire to glorify or give a platform to white people who go off the white race code and fight white racism.  

Every time I think you can't say something more ridiculous, you say something so outstandingly, ridiculously, incredulously stupid that I am actually shocked to read it.

Nigga.

THE ENTIRE SJW MOVEMENT,

THE WHOLE THING,

IS BASED ON EXACTLY THIS.
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(02-06-2019, 09:14 AM)wildman99 Wrote: what i'm trying to figure out is if, 1) worrying about my writing style 2) accusing me of "keyboard venting with impotent rage" LOL! 3) making up shit, pretending like i implied that only black people want to live in peace, are supposed to be personal attacks because i DARED to question you? LOL! just like you, i'm entitled to my opinion on WHATEVER. you're free to criticize me but come on, bro, are we in elementary school? 

i'm aware that you were responding to ipay4. my reply was to this one and your earlier post in this thread. anyway, your answer to me pales in comparison to your original answer, sir. in your reply to him, you are basically trying imply that black people have all these relatives that hate white people and want to kill any innocent one they find.. you know damn well that's not the case. do i know black people who HATE white people? YES.. have i ever heard any of them say "man,i HATE white people!! i should go provoke some white person so i'll have a reason to KILL them"? HELL NO! you're on this "but black people do it too" bullshit. i can't rock with you on that assertion. you doing that is no different than what liam did. because you're essentially trying to put black people in this shit in attempt to throw us under the bus and shame us because we supposedly have all these relatives that want to kill white people. get the fuck outta here with that. i'm not accepting NONE of that. put that on your OWN relatives if they act that way. but we both know that you're bullshitting. i don't have to know every black person to know that MOST of us would never wish death on our WORST enemies. so for you to make this false narrative, that black people even come close to what liam admitted to doing, i'm not feeling that at all. that's my opinion. you don't have to like it. just how i don't like what you said. see how that works? 

listen, i don't have to be like you. i don't have to think how you think. i don't have to write things how you expect them to be written. i am me. you are you. that's it. you are welcome to criticize but try to keep it in the context. none of the slick shit you said had anything to do with the liam topic and what i questioned you about. at least when i told you that people like you annoy me, it was in proper context of this topic.. meaning i didn't like the way you tried to deflect things to "black people do it too" in regards to criticism of liam. you can get on your high horse and try to be the morality police all you want but i'm not buying it.

you're basically saying it's in everyone's "human nature" to hate others, etc. the whole "oh well, that's how life goes" thing is a lazy way of thinking. that's why the world is fucked up right up now, with everyone making excuses, instead of putting laws on the books to stop all the HATE nonsense. racism continues to thrive because no official wants to punish those who practice it the most. because, rest assured, if there were actual CONSEQUENCES, people would UNLEARN racism real quick. but since they know they can get away with it, they will continue to hurt innocent minorities whenever they have a "temper tantrum". 

nah, you're not depressed by me. that's not my doing. it must be your own personal vices. i simply expressed my distaste in a mostly respectful manner. you apparently can't handle criticism or to be questioned about anything you say. i can understand that to a degree. but, hey, it is what it is. 

it's not a winning or losing battle. we can agree to disagree. your engaging with me can be "pointless" in your eyes. that's fine. i can accept that. but things weren't that "pointless" when you threw black people under the bus trying to lump us into this topic as a scapegoat for the fucked-up shit that liam character said. you definitely thought THAT was worthwhile, huh? smh. anyway.. GOOD TALK. have a nice day Smile


If you can't view human history and see that overwhelming hate can affect virtually anyone at any time, I can't be bothered. You're a narrowcaster and thats your prerogative. Your interpretation of the discussion is your call, I don't see your offense you took, I don't care, this back and forth is literally the least interesting thing I've done in days, but your narrow thoughts on the matter just seem silly to me.

For fuck's sake just look at the dodger thread; some of these dudes hate, viscerally hate these girls for not fucking black dudes, and another thread where several people were overjoyed when Christy Mack got assaulted near death ( one of whom is in this thread, actually) was saying a guy should get a "gold star" for putting her in the hospital. 

http://ir-tube.net/showthread.php?tid=55266&highlight="war+machine"

Even if that's just keyboard bullshit, that's a terrible sentiment, isn't it? "She pissed me off with her behavior so she should get beaten near death." So if guys take so much offense, just in porn messages, just over a girl not fucking a black guy I can't imagine what people get angry at in the real world.

So, no I'm not excusing Neeson's behavior. Only an idiot would think that. But conversely I don't think he's all that unique in the world, black white or whatever...

You do your thing; have fun. If you can't take a little repartee that you really started in the first place, I have no need to make your easily wilted flower more droopy.
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(02-08-2019, 08:28 PM)imperiusrex Wrote: For fuck's sake just look at the dodger thread; some of these dudes hate, viscerally hate these girls for not fucking black dudes, and another thread where several people were overjoyed when Christy Mack got assaulted near death ( one of whom is in this thread, actually) was saying a guy should get a "gold star" for putting her in the hospital. 

http://ir-tube.net/showthread.php?tid=55266&highlight="war+machine"

Even if that's just keyboard bullshit, that's a terrible sentiment, isn't it?

Guilty.

I've already admitted that I laughed out loud when I heard it. A bitch who sees Blacks as beneath her gets tuned up by her glorious white man. You call it sentiment, I call it the wheel of life.

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(02-08-2019, 08:28 PM)imperiusrex Wrote:
(02-06-2019, 09:14 AM)wildman99 Wrote: what i'm trying to figure out is if, 1) worrying about my writing style 2) accusing me of "keyboard venting with impotent rage" LOL! 3) making up shit, pretending like i implied that only black people want to live in peace, are supposed to be personal attacks because i DARED to question you? LOL! just like you, i'm entitled to my opinion on WHATEVER. you're free to criticize me but come on, bro, are we in elementary school? 

i'm aware that you were responding to ipay4. my reply was to this one and your earlier post in this thread. anyway, your answer to me pales in comparison to your original answer, sir. in your reply to him, you are basically trying imply that black people have all these relatives that hate white people and want to kill any innocent one they find.. you know damn well that's not the case. do i know black people who HATE white people? YES.. have i ever heard any of them say "man,i HATE white people!! i should go provoke some white person so i'll have a reason to KILL them"? HELL NO! you're on this "but black people do it too" bullshit. i can't rock with you on that assertion. you doing that is no different than what liam did. because you're essentially trying to put black people in this shit in attempt to throw us under the bus and shame us because we supposedly have all these relatives that want to kill white people. get the fuck outta here with that. i'm not accepting NONE of that. put that on your OWN relatives if they act that way. but we both know that you're bullshitting. i don't have to know every black person to know that MOST of us would never wish death on our WORST enemies. so for you to make this false narrative, that black people even come close to what liam admitted to doing, i'm not feeling that at all. that's my opinion. you don't have to like it. just how i don't like what you said. see how that works? 

listen, i don't have to be like you. i don't have to think how you think. i don't have to write things how you expect them to be written. i am me. you are you. that's it. you are welcome to criticize but try to keep it in the context. none of the slick shit you said had anything to do with the liam topic and what i questioned you about. at least when i told you that people like you annoy me, it was in proper context of this topic.. meaning i didn't like the way you tried to deflect things to "black people do it too" in regards to criticism of liam. you can get on your high horse and try to be the morality police all you want but i'm not buying it.

you're basically saying it's in everyone's "human nature" to hate others, etc. the whole "oh well, that's how life goes" thing is a lazy way of thinking. that's why the world is fucked up right up now, with everyone making excuses, instead of putting laws on the books to stop all the HATE nonsense. racism continues to thrive because no official wants to punish those who practice it the most. because, rest assured, if there were actual CONSEQUENCES, people would UNLEARN racism real quick. but since they know they can get away with it, they will continue to hurt innocent minorities whenever they have a "temper tantrum". 

nah, you're not depressed by me. that's not my doing. it must be your own personal vices. i simply expressed my distaste in a mostly respectful manner. you apparently can't handle criticism or to be questioned about anything you say. i can understand that to a degree. but, hey, it is what it is. 

it's not a winning or losing battle. we can agree to disagree. your engaging with me can be "pointless" in your eyes. that's fine. i can accept that. but things weren't that "pointless" when you threw black people under the bus trying to lump us into this topic as a scapegoat for the fucked-up shit that liam character said. you definitely thought THAT was worthwhile, huh? smh. anyway.. GOOD TALK. have a nice day Smile


If you can't view human history and see that overwhelming hate can affect virtually anyone at any time, I can't be bothered. You're a narrowcaster and thats your prerogative. Your interpretation of the discussion is your call, I don't see your offense you took, I don't care, this back and forth is literally the least interesting thing I've done in days, but your narrow thoughts on the matter just seem silly to me.

For fuck's sake just look at the dodger thread; some of these dudes hate, viscerally hate these girls for not fucking black dudes, and another thread where several people were overjoyed when Christy Mack got assaulted near death ( one of whom is in this thread, actually) was saying a guy should get a "gold star" for putting her in the hospital. 

http://ir-tube.net/showthread.php?tid=55266&highlight="war+machine"

Even if that's just keyboard bullshit, that's a terrible sentiment, isn't it? "She pissed me off with her behavior so she should get beaten near death." So if guys take so much offense, just in porn messages, just over a girl not fucking a black guy I can't imagine what people get angry at in the real world.

So, no I'm not excusing Neeson's behavior. Only an idiot would think that. But conversely I don't think he's all that unique in the world, black white or whatever...

You do your thing; have fun. If you can't take a little repartee that you really started in the first place, I have no need to make your easily wilted flower more droopy.
sigh. you're deflecting yet again.. smh. if i'm the "least interesting" whatever, why are you wasting your time and mine? you could have spared us both by not even responding.
i don't really need you to tell me that all humans have a propensity to hate. that's a given. i don't understand why you keep saying that stuff likes it's some groundbreaking discovery. smh. let's just move on..

what does people's feelings on christy mack have to do with anything, sir? or the liam topic, for that matter. i doubt that those who "hate" christy, want to provoke, then KILL some random white person because of her. if you expect me to get out the violins and feel sorry for that racist bitch, KEEP DREAMING. it's true that people probably dislike her for not fucking black dudes. that's their prerogative. but i'm pretty sure that the MAIN reason that people hate is that she came off racist as fuck with her own words on twitter. just because she had something horrible happen by the hands of her equally racist ex-boyfriend, doesn't mean she gets the "victim" treatment from me. i'll let everyone else feel sorry for her. racist people get NO LOVE from me. period. SORRY NOT SORRY.

well, it's good to know that you're no longer excusing neeson's behavior anymore by deflecting to black people. at least one thing GOOD can come out of this interaction. bravo..
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(02-07-2019, 11:19 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(02-07-2019, 09:24 PM)Ipay4 Wrote: White society has no desire to glorify or give a platform to white people who go off the white race code and fight white racism.  

Every time I think you can't say something more ridiculous, you say something so outstandingly, ridiculously, incredulously stupid that I am actually shocked to read it.

Nigga.

THE ENTIRE SJW MOVEMENT,

THE WHOLE THING,

IS BASED ON EXACTLY THIS.
No, it isn't SJW are about everyone except black folks
-gays and fags
-trans
-illegals
-humpbacks
-transsexuals
-peg legs
-lesbians
-environment
-protecting religions like muslims
-hispanics
-Asians


Your SJW are the whites in NYC who are stomping on the backs of black kids as teachers telling them this is what slavery would feel like, or they are the white parents in NYC arguing with the principal and superintendent to NOT INTEGRATE the school with black kids.  White SJW hate blacks more than the right wing does, they are just more clever at hiding their anti black hatred.  They will pat  you on the head and say see I love black people, I have a black friend, I slept with a black man, but ask them about what are you going to do punish white supremacist with jail time or what are you going to do to reparate blacks for slavery, jim crow, red lining, discrimination etc. and CRICKETS!  Then they will turn around and tell you about how the gay agenda will help black people because there are gay blacks, but they will never say the black agenda will help gays because there are black gays.

Dr. King was right, white liberal moderates and SJW are worse than the klan.  They make you think they are on your side so they can infiltrate you and attack your movement from the inside.
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(02-06-2019, 06:18 PM)wildman99 Wrote:
(02-06-2019, 09:47 AM)snakebyte666 Wrote:
(02-06-2019, 09:27 AM)wildman99 Wrote:
(02-06-2019, 08:49 AM)snakebyte666 Wrote:
(02-06-2019, 02:41 AM)wildman99 Wrote: nah i think it's just that most white people can't stand to read/hear ANY criticism about their group. i guarantee that you won't hear any say "hypocrisy at its finest" when there are people criticizing blacks Smile  isn't that right? lol. 

if you're a good person, nothing said should effect you in any way. i'm calling out the bad guys only. it's not "all".

Do you know most white people? Or most black people? I can assure you that were I live (not in the US) there are lots of white people shouting "racism" way before any black would. They are true "white knights" Big Grin
none of us know "most" white or black people. we can only go by personal experiences. from MY experiences in the south here in the U.S., white people will fight tooth and nail to defend other whites accused of racism. they make up all kinds of excuses even when the evidence is staring them right in the face.. i try my best not to say "all" white people to anything.. but, boy oh boy, the people here make it really hard not to. "most" is my description these days.

it seems to me that you're annoyed with those in your country who supposedly shout "racism" at everything. i'm not sure if that means they're good people or not. i feel like everyone should confront racism at every turn. to combat this in the united states, we will definitely need white allies. but most are too lazy to do anything. so maybe your country's people have the right idea? Smile
It depends. When people start seeing racism in the most innocent things it's not the right idea anymore. Just like parts of feminism or other things.
If someone tells a joke about blacks and a white person shouts racism while I find it innocent and actually funny, then yes, it does annoy me. You know why? Because whites want to define what's racist and what not towards a group they are no part of. They can start their outrage to support blacks that say something is racist but they should shut the fuck up when even blacks don't mind. So in general i hate white knights and social justice warriors since at the end of the day they just do it to feel good.
i agree with you somewhat. but certain things that people think are "innocent", might not be that way to another person. so do we just disregard that person's feelings, just because we don't see it as a big deal? even if they're not apart of that particular racial group, do we hear them out or do we automatically dismiss their feelings because the black person says that they're ok with whatever? hmm.. that's a tricky one. me personally, i would still want to hear what the person has to say about it. but, yes, it 

just because a black person claims to not be offended by something that the "white knights" call out, doesn't mean that that he/she really feel that way. many just say they're cool with things, just to keep the peace and not ruin the vibe. i mean, who really wants to be THAT person who "complains" about race all the time? do you know how tiring it would be to call out EVERY SINGLE instance of racism? it's already draining enough just to EXPERIENCE it.. keep that in mind the next time you think a black person is really cool with some racially insensitive comment or "joke"  watch their body language. it might tell an entirely different story Smile 

as for the "white knights", and "social justice warriors" that annoy you in your country, i think it's just a case of people meaning well and going a little overboard. cut them a little slack. lol. as long as they're not being attention whores and wanting unnecessary accolades for being a decent human being, then i see no problem with them sticking up for whomever to "feel good". why wouldn't they want to feel that way if he/she is a genuine person who cares, and respects, other races and cultures? you deserve to feel good because you ARE a good person if you can go to bat for others. i have no problem with that whatsoever.

it IS really annoying for whites to define what's racist and what's not. that's my biggest pet peeve here in america. i am quick to tell someone to SHUT THE FUCK UP to their face, if they attempt to minimize my, or someone else's, pain as it pertains to racism. you can't tell others how to feel or how to react. i don't mind others chiming in if its for support and encouragement. anything other than that, back the fuck away from me. lol.

DL Hughley said something similar. That "white people don't get to decide what racism is because they've been bad at judging it every time it happened."

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(02-07-2019, 09:24 PM)Ipay4 Wrote:
(02-06-2019, 11:34 AM)wd40isabadmf Wrote: The bar has been set so low. You've decided to not murder someone based on nothing but the color of the skin. This is supposed to generate what exactly? Empathy, sympathy or whatever the fuck that has been lately decided to understand/normalize the psychology of the racist mind. For what, for managing to comprehend basic causation which took you a fucking week, no less?

What, exactly, will this persistent fetish of engaging with how racists think, add to debate? There is absolutely nothing to gain from this. He should've kept it himself and his therapist. I don't give a damn that he realized that it was wrong and even less so that it showed the naked truth that this happens in society. All it will do is generate emotional reaction on this mf and him alone, who gives a fuck about his epiphany?

That's why the only thing that genuinely pisses me off is how this neatly sits right next to the NYT giving Nazis a goddamn editorial of them doing groceries. Anything to give it a more human face while racism literally dehumanizes human beings which made it possible for Neeson to have thought like this. A deliberate vicious circle.

Where are the articles/editorials of white men and women who engage in antiracism and face hostilities from people and the government. You're lucky if that even gets a footnote. That's what helps the debate. Those are the only white people I want to see discussing racism along with black people with a similar set of mind. Not a back and forth on whether or not he evolved on the matter or a useless discussion on forgiveness. Stop worshiping celebrities, give unsung heroes a platform.

White society has no desire to glorify or give a platform to white people who go off the white race code and fight white racism.  The reason why they don't even mentioned people like Thaddeus Stevenes and Charles Sumner in American history books is because they don't want the idea out that if a white person does something positive towards fighting racism they can be great.  They want to fill the history book with white vile racist and name everything after them so that the white child can learn early on if he wants to be great he must mistreat black people like all the whites he is taught about.

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(02-07-2019, 11:19 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(02-07-2019, 09:24 PM)Ipay4 Wrote: White society has no desire to glorify or give a platform to white people who go off the white race code and fight white racism.  

Every time I think you can't say something more ridiculous, you say something so outstandingly, ridiculously, incredulously stupid that I am actually shocked to read it.

Nigga.

THE ENTIRE SJW MOVEMENT,

THE WHOLE THING,

IS BASED ON EXACTLY THIS.

Yeah, but how many in middle American fuck with so-called "SJW" white people?

They are still on the fringes of white society. 

The only reason it might appear that they have more notoriety is that of social media.
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(02-09-2019, 12:49 AM)Ipay4 Wrote:
(02-07-2019, 11:19 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:
(02-07-2019, 09:24 PM)Ipay4 Wrote: White society has no desire to glorify or give a platform to white people who go off the white race code and fight white racism.  

Every time I think you can't say something more ridiculous, you say something so outstandingly, ridiculously, incredulously stupid that I am actually shocked to read it.

Nigga.

THE ENTIRE SJW MOVEMENT,

THE WHOLE THING,

IS BASED ON EXACTLY THIS.
No, it isn't SJW are about everyone except black folks
-gays and fags
-trans
-illegals
-humpbacks
-transsexuals
-peg legs
-lesbians
-environment
-protecting religions like muslims
-hispanics
-Asians


Your SJW are the whites in NYC who are stomping on the backs of black kids as teachers telling them this is what slavery would feel like, or they are the white parents in NYC arguing with the principal and superintendent to NOT INTEGRATE the school with black kids.  White SJW hate blacks more than the right wing does, they are just more clever at hiding their anti black hatred.  They will pat  you on the head and say see I love black people, I have a black friend, I slept with a black man, but ask them about what are you going to do punish white supremacist with jail time or what are you going to do to reparate blacks for slavery, jim crow, red lining, discrimination etc. and CRICKETS!  Then they will turn around and tell you about how the gay agenda will help black people because there are gay blacks, but they will never say the black agenda will help gays because there are black gays.

Dr. King was right, white liberal moderates and SJW are worse than the klan.  They make you think they are on your side so they can infiltrate you and attack your movement from the inside.

Ipay4, you are onto something here. Bernie Sanders refused to support reparations for native blacks but then waffles on about these very groups that supposedly have native black people's interest at heart.



His attitude towards blacks is similar to most white Democrats/liberals, including the extreme left of the party, ''progressives'' just like him (i.e. TYT, Liz Warren), very arrogant and racist in their dismissiveness of a black agenda or black concerns. Yet they will speak at length about environmental concerns, LGBTQ rights, (white) feminism, the (white) working class etc. 

Goto 2:20 to the video under.



They will dismiss anything regarding blacks as "identity politics" on one hand but talk about supporting policies for LGBTQ, the white working class etc.

I'm glad Hillary lost because it gave white Democrats like Bernie got a rude awakening that cannot any longer ignore the black voting block who decided that enough was enough.
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