The "IR" Label
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The only reason dodgers and dodger supporters are blowing him up is so that they can go, "Race doesn't exist so it doen't matter if I never do a scene with a guy darker than my spray-on tan, and this guy (whose race does matter conveniently in this one instance to support my opinion) says it's okay." "I don't like the way IR is marketed" is just another square on the bingo card of dodger excuses.

He's a clown and protecting his paycheck because he knows the instant he really comes out against dodgers his career is over.
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(05-07-2019, 12:07 PM)iramaj Wrote: He definitely explains it well for the ones who either can't understand or just want to use this as fuel to keep their lightskin bias burning.  

This literally is what you guys have been saying what you wanted from porn companies and scenes.

https://twitter.com/yearofthericky/statu...6282460165

I see a lot of dodgers are congrats him but they ain't working with him so far I haven't seen Rob Piper, Prince, Rico or even Jax tweet or RT this. Now they did the same with Justin Long when he made his statement 9 years ago. But his was different because he called out companies, directors, performers mostly dodgers and agents like LA Direct and that killed his porn career. He was like the porn version of Colin Kaepernick, and what happened to Kaepernick is the same happen to Justin Long. As for Ricky when his contract is up some of these IR companies like Dogfart, Blacked, or even Dark X aren't going to hired him because we know IR is their money maker and some will rub it the wrong way. But Ricky is a sellout, Justin Long didn't so Justin Long should be a hero for speaking out. Fuck this industry anyway
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(05-07-2019, 01:44 PM)J Mac Wrote: Now they did the same with Justin Long when he made his statement 9 years ago. But his was different because he called out companies, directors, performers mostly dodgers and agents like LA Direct and that killed his porn career.

Wow how did I know you would bring up this Justin Long post for the thousandth time. Justin killed his own career. If all companies are shooting is IR and you come out and say I'm not shooting with white people anymore, what did he think that was going to happen. He tried to go the route of trying to prop up black women and even they laughed his ass out. They brought up instances of how they wanted to work with him in the past and he declined but now he wanted to come back and try and work with them because it was the only option he had left.

From my POV I see a bunch of guys that run around here saying how much the system is fucked up and how much the system needs to change but when someone tries to change it, they start defending said system.
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(05-07-2019, 02:07 PM)iramaj Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 01:44 PM)J Mac Wrote: Now they did the same with Justin Long when he made his statement 9 years ago. But his was different because he called out companies, directors, performers mostly dodgers and agents like LA Direct and that killed his porn career.

Wow how did I know you would bring up this Justin Long post for the thousandth time.   Justin killed his own career.  If all companies are shooting is IR and you come out and say I'm not shooting with white people anymore, what did he think that was going to happen. He tried to go the route of trying to prop up black women and even they laughed his ass out. They brought up instances of how they wanted to work with him in the past and he declined but now he wanted to come back and try and work with them because it was the only option he had left.

From my POV I see a bunch of guys that run around here saying how much the system is fucked up and how much the system needs to change but when someone tries to change it, they start defending said system.

But when it involves money then that's a different statement, you don't fuck up someone money and Ricky could rub people the wrong way. When his contract is up next year it will be hard for him to get booked because he rubs these companies that made him a star the wrong way. Remember when Moe filed a lawsuit against Dogfart last year because Ryann Conner called him the N-Word but at the same time Nat Turner and other black performers called him out.

But also Moe for what I hear he abuse Jenna Ivory and two other female pornstars. Jenna Ivory on her IG in late 2017 early 2018 had a gun to her head because of it, and now she quit porn because the industry didn't have her back because of been abuse by Moe.
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(05-07-2019, 02:43 PM)J Mac Wrote: But when it involves money then that's a different statement, you don't fuck up someone money and Ricky could rub people the wrong way. When his contract is up next year it will be hard for him to get booked because he rubs these companies that made him a star the wrong way.

Who's money is he fucking up?

HE IS NOT SAYING GET RID OF ALL THE IR SITES OUT THERE OR FOR GIRLS TO NOT SHOOT WITH BLACK MEN.

That seems to be the misconception that y'all took and are running Usain Bolt-like sprints with. I guess your hate for him means its time to change that avatar huh?
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(05-07-2019, 03:01 PM)iramaj Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 02:43 PM)J Mac Wrote: But when it involves money then that's a different statement, you don't fuck up someone money and Ricky could rub people the wrong way. When his contract is up next year it will be hard for him to get booked because he rubs these companies that made him a star the wrong way.

Who's money is he fucking up?

HE IS NOT SAYING GET RID OF ALL THE IR SITES OUT THERE OR FOR GIRLS TO NOT SHOOT WITH BLACK MEN.

That seems to be the misconception that y'all took and are running Usain Bolt-like sprints with. I guess your hate for him means its time to change that avatar huh?

Getting rid of IR isn't going to make racism in porn go away but companies like Brazzer are still going to a hired woman who won''t do black men. If you want changes when black talent should just start there own companies and not shoot with Brazzer. Heck Brazzer or DP or these companies that shoot IR that much aren't carter to IR fans. I'm done with this topic anyway and BTW Ricky is still a sellout
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I totally get what Ricky is trying to say, I dont think he is a coon at all, he is not denying he is black, all he is saying is that he does not want it to define him as a performer.  Which I get I mean I do not think any of us want that in our careers. Who wants to be known for their skin color first and foremost before their accomplishments.

That being I gotta say that I am not with him bigging up Brazzers and DP as some pioneers.  They both have a very dubious reputation when it comes to IR.  I mean Brazzers has produced thousands of scenes over its existence and how many of those are IR 5% probably less, I recall a couple of years ago someone asked the people that were directing scenes for them in Europe why they did not shoot it and the response was basically those who do the casting did not want to.   DP a company when it was at its height was so anti-ir that one of its contract girls had to threaten to quit to get an IR scene.  When the who Jesse Jane and Lex thing came up he even mentioned how the company was.

I am sure that you would have some that say hey they are better now they are doing more IR and they signed Ricky.  Lets just be real what Brazzers and DP are doing with this is just the same as like the country club that was all white for the past 100 years getting their first black members and saying hey let's forget it color doesn't matter now even though it did the past 100 years were moving on and trying to be better.  Here is the thing the IR label could be abolished tomorrow and nothing would change, I mean are agents and starlets gonna stop IR rates I highly doubt it, is first black cock gonna stop being a thing again nope.  So until there is fundemental change at that level the label going away means nothing.

As for Saya Song, I can understand how she would feel that Asian women are fetishized to an extreme in porn, just look at the sites they appear on full of stereotypes but like mrodgers points out many of the current and former crop of asian female performers practice the very same discriminatory tactics of their white counterparts when it comes to IR.  Yes there are very few male asian performers but those there are do not face the same thing as black male performers.  If an asian male talent came into porn right now he would have more work than Isiah who has a sterling reputation.  I also highly doubt that he would have any asian girls dodging him either.  Many of the girls in the industry have fucked and asian dude long before they ever went near a black guy.  Remember that site nextdooramateurs the male talent for that was asian, kenny kong is still out here making porn and doing girls that are or have been openly hostile towards the idea of IR.  Just check his clips4sale page on the very first page you see a couple in Gia Love and Bella Rose.
https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/105418...-amwf-porn
Oh and JeshbyJesh as well just go through all the girls that have shot for him and you will find a number of dodgers (Amia Miley, Madison Ivy, Rachel Starr, Uma Jolie)

Lets also not forget about all the girls that traveled overseas to appear in porn Mia Malkova went over to Japan years ago well before doing a scene with a black man.
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(05-07-2019, 04:49 PM)blkknight1 Wrote: I totally get what Ricky is trying to say, I dont think he is a coon at all, he is not denying he is black, all he is saying is that he does not want it to define him as a performer.  Which I get I mean I do not think any of us want that in our careers. Who wants to be known for their skin color first and foremost before their accomplishments.

That being I gotta say that I am not with him bigging up Brazzers and DP as some pioneers.  They both have a very dubious reputation when it comes to IR.  I mean Brazzers has produced thousands of scenes over its existence and how many of those are IR 5% probably less, I recall a couple of years ago someone asked the people that were directing scenes for them in Europe why they did not shoot it and the response was basically those who do the casting did not want to.   DP a company when it was at its height was so anti-ir that one of its contract girls had to threaten to quit to get an IR scene.  When the who Jesse Jane and Lex thing came up he even mentioned how the company was.

I am sure that you would have some that say hey they are better now they are doing more IR and they signed Ricky.  Lets just be real what Brazzers and DP are doing with this is just the same as like the country club that was all white for the past 100 years getting their first black members and saying hey let's forget it color doesn't matter now even though it did the past 100 years were moving on and trying to be better.  Here is the thing the IR label could be abolished tomorrow and nothing would change, I mean are agents and starlets gonna stop IR rates I highly doubt it, is first black cock gonna stop being a thing again nope.  So until there is fundemental change at that level the label going away means nothing.

As for Saya Song, I can understand how she would feel that Asian women are fetishized to an extreme in porn, just look at the sites they appear on full of stereotypes but like mrodgers points out many of the current and former crop of asian female performers practice the very same discriminatory tactics of their white counterparts when it comes to IR.  Yes there are very few male asian performers but those there are do not face the same thing as black male performers.  If an asian male talent came into porn right now he would have more work than Isiah who has a sterling reputation.  I also highly doubt that he would have any asian girls dodging him either.  Many of the girls in the industry have fucked and asian dude long before they ever went near a black guy.  Remember that site nextdooramateurs the male talent for that was asian, kenny kong is still out here making porn and doing girls that are or have been openly hostile towards the idea of IR.  Just check his clips4sale page on the very first page you see a couple in Gia Love and Bella Rose.
https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/105418...-amwf-porn
Oh and JeshbyJesh as well just go through all the girls that have shot for him and you will find a number of dodgers (Amia Miley, Madison Ivy, Rachel Starr, Uma Jolie)

Lets also not forget about all the girls that traveled overseas to appear in porn Mia Malkova went over to Japan years ago well before doing a scene with a black man.

I feel that black talent both male and female need to start there own companies and hired people that want to work with them and not charges more for it or don't have a problem with black men. What if all black male talent stop doing IR scenes from companies like Blacked, Dogfart and even non-IR companies like Brazzers or DP? What kinda an impact will it have on the industry in all. BTW why can't black talent started there own companies these days, BTW fuck those Asain dudes with there small rice dick.
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Since this became a pretty lengthy discussion about if scenes should be labeled as IR or not, it might as well have its own thread
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Thanks man i was just about to move this into one thread myself
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