The "IR" Label
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(05-14-2019, 01:15 PM)fletchlives Wrote:
(05-13-2019, 10:36 PM)SWAGGART Wrote: Without an IR label what excuses will the dodgers use now?

They won't have to then. They can claim race doesn't exist so they can pretend IR isn't real thing so they're not actually racist. It's a long tradition of bigots and conservatives taking progressive language out of context to make shit up and excuse their bullshit.

As much as it pains me to agree with Fletch, about anything, he's right here. 

Without the IR label, chicks can simply ignore Black talent and have total plausible deniability. "Oh, I don't see color" and all that bullshit. And, of course, they can work 100% vanilla without any accountability. 

I get where Ricky is coming from. He wants more work (money) and wants to cross over to the MindGeek empire. This is his career we're talking about, and it could be a long one since he's young. But that youth means he don't understand the forces he's up against. He don't understand that the longstanding insecurities of white men go all the way back to slave days and he's not going to cure it by being light skinned and congenial. 

The boy just needs to grow up a bit.
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^There’s definitely some truth to that. If AM/WW was an official “genre” like “IR” is (BM/WW), there might be more pressure on white females to do those kind of scenes (despite the fact that many dodgers will work with Asian men, I believe a majority of female performers never end up doing scenes with Asian men). Obviously, BM/WW is also simply way more popular/lucrative than any other type of interracial, but the IR label keeps it in the conscience of porn performers and producers.

White boys love them some Asian women, but there’s no such WM/AW equivalent to Blacked or Brothalovers despite the huge popularity of this pairing in real life (amongst WM) because this pairing is deracialized in porn. It’s a double edged sword.
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(05-14-2019, 01:15 PM)fletchlives Wrote:
(05-13-2019, 10:36 PM)SWAGGART Wrote: Without an IR label what excuses will the dodgers use now?

They won't have to then. They can claim race doesn't exist so they can pretend IR isn't real thing so they're not actually racist. It's a long tradition of bigots and conservatives taking progressive language out of context to make shit up and excuse their bullshit.

Than the question just becomes "Why won't you work with a black male lead?" They'll just be more progressive call-outs.
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(05-14-2019, 04:09 PM)JBJ Wrote: White boys love them some Asian women, but there’s no such WM/AW equivalent to Blacked or Brothalovers despite the huge popularity of this pairing in real life (amongst WM) because this pairing is deracialized in porn. It’s a double edged sword.

Oh, I disagree. The "Asian" genre is overwhelmingly WM/AW. It is presumed most of the time. In fact the popularity of the "Asian" genre is due mostly to white men pursuing these pairings. 

Outside of JAV, are there any Asian women who don't do white dudes? None that I know of. So the Asian genre is equivalent to the IR genre because the white male presence is assumed. 

IR has to be labeled IR because that same white male presumption exists for white girl porn.
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Getting rid of the IR Label is not going to make racism go alway, you also got to remember not everyone watch the same porn and not all don’t watch all white porn. Like me I only watch IR BM/WF and the industry know this but at the same time they are hating on IR fans for supporting racist porn but also you got some IR fans like me who called out girls who don’t do IR. It’s the reason why you won’t see any performer or director on here. If you want to get rid of racism in porn is for that black talent both male and female to stop working with performers and companies who discriminate. Also black need to stop worrying about not getting booked and start their own businesses, there a lack of black ownership in the Industry but there are platforms like Manyvid and even Pornhub have a premium service. But blacks in pro porn can’t go way far, and they should go to amateur porn root because Richard Mann has done a good job with it. This is the reason why IR fans should support Amateur IR companies then pro porn. I have nothing against Blacked, Dark X or even Dogfart which I still support. As far as Brazzer I won’t even support them even if they put more IR scenes but they will never get my money fuck them
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(05-14-2019, 01:15 PM)fletchlives Wrote:
(05-13-2019, 10:36 PM)SWAGGART Wrote: Without an IR label what excuses will the dodgers use now?

They won't have to then. They can claim race doesn't exist so they can pretend IR isn't real thing so they're not actually racist. It's a long tradition of bigots and conservatives taking progressive language out of context to make shit up and excuse their bullshit.

Some of the girls are saying this kind of stuff now as a way to not do IR.

What I do know though is that they will always have excuses everytime time the industry makes an adjustment the girl then move the goalposts.  Remember before Blacked came along every girl in their mother was screaming well I don't do it because it is shot poorly with ghetto themes and if there was a company that shot it with high production value and was classy then I would.  Blacked and DarkX and a bunch of other IR  sites that were higher production and non ghetto themed come along and all of sudden that reason goes out the window. When girls were saying well too many of the guys in porn were the thuggish type well they bring in new guys like an Isiah and Ricky then the goal posts move again.  The IR label is racist is what came out of that it just the latest.


No matter what is done they will continue to move the goal posts.  So I  think we would see a return of the these timeless classics with a little bit of adjustment added.
  • Black guys are so big and my pussy is so small, I can't handle it.  I need to stretch out a bit more, but if there were smaller guys I would work with them.  The industry doesn't usually hire them though.  It's not that I am against it but ya girl just cant handle the BBC.
  • I am from (some lily white place) and there were not a lot of black people around and I never got to know any maybe when I get to know some of the performers I will be more comfortable with it.  
  • I find many black men attractive its just that I am just not attracted to any of the black male performers in porn,  if there was someone that looked like (insert famous black man) or if  there was a black guy that was more the type I was looking for I definitely would.  
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I think all of this means most of these girls who say this aren't really into black men at all, just because they do a scene with us doesn't mean they like us off the film. You can take Ava Addams and her scene with white men she has better chemistry, but when it scenes with black men she really not into him and she doesn't want to be there. Blacked waste on the whole Carter Cruise showcase which was a bad moved by Greg and it was very lackluster. She wasn't into the whole thing and but she only did it for more money. I know and some of these women are really down for brothas and this is why I called them Fake Brothalover, and that is why you see these name on my No List. As for IR man, I missed the days of Wesley Pipes in all.
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I already talked about ir label thing, and I still think it's stupid.

For one thing most people don't pay for porn. They either use short clips to jerk off, or they pirate stuff. And on those pirate websites, like this one, there are tags. Tags, categories. They exist so that people can search QUICKLY interracial videos. They make this IR Label as sort of racist shit, when in reality it's just for the people that want to see this particular thing in that particular moment. There's no difference between this, or other categories like incest, milf etc. So abolishing the whole ir label thing is not gonna do shit because most people don't use their official websites. And yes, I blame PC culture for this.
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^ We've discussed this in the past, I believe, but I remember browsing a site a long time ago (maybe a decade or close?) that had tags for the pairings you wanted to search and it was very effective. I'd say it was even more effective than just a broad "IR" tag, which is fine, but I'd also prefer a way to search specific pairings as well in addition to it.

Basically, you could select:

[X] Black Male - And it would search all videos with a Black Male and any other female.

In addition to that, you could also add another tag like:

[X] White Female

or

[X] Black Female

etc.

[X] Latin Female
[X] Asian Female

Was great. And none of that accidentally turning up a BF/WM scene or AF/WM or w/e that sometimes happens when some sites label them as IR as well (which does happen). It's just more effective. But I'm not opposed to keeping the IR tag, just wouldn't mind even more efficient ways to search exactly what you're looking for "in that moment."
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^yeah in ideal world IR wouldn't exist, but shit like BMWF (black male white female) and tagging videos that way. AMWF/WMAF/BMAF/BFWM etc Some torrent/pirate sites do that, but most sites just do the general thing. ir for bmwf
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