The "IR" Label
(05-26-2019, 09:04 PM)blkknight1 Wrote: I got to thinking about this even further and it got me thinking.  Years ago Nica Noelle posted this on ADT.

A few different things are going on with respect to race - and racism - in porn.

First of all, the adult industry is inherently and repulsively racist. I always call it the last bastian of blatant, old school racism in western culture. It's disgusting, period. 
And because of the way interracial relationships are often depicted in porn, some girls give their agents a "no interracial" blanket policy. This is so they're not booked for scenes where both races are depicted as vulgar stereotypes to be made fun of, and where the sex is orchestrated in the most demeaning way possible. 
There are several girls with a "no interracial" policy who have made it clear to me that they'll shoot interracial scenes for my studio anytime. Zoe Voss is one of those girls. She just wants to make sure agents aren't booking her for scenes she doesn't feel good about being in. And yes, she has already done an interracial scene for me, with Mickey Mod.
That issue aside, there are many white performers who won't work with black men or women in ANY type of production. Part of this stems from the "conventional wisdom" perpetrated by white men in porn that "If you do interracial you'll never get signed to a contract" or "you'll lose fans" or "you'll stop getting work with the best companies." None of that is true, but many girls still buy into it, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. 
But of course some performers refuse to perform interracial strictly for personal reasons. "I'm just not attracted," they explain (suggesting that they're "always" attracted to their white costars -- highly unlikely!!!)
As with all racism, I think it's just a product of ignorance and fear. And I've seen it on both sides of the camera. For instance, many white girl/girl fans openly expressed a preference for white, girl next door types to be cast. As a result, for years you really didn't see any black women cast in g/g scenes. But early in my g/g career I started casting Nyomi Banxxx, Ms. Platinum and Sincere Lemmore in multiple scenes, and once the fans "got to know" these women, they were requesting them like crazy. 
And it's the same thing with many white performers who "get to know" a black performer and suddenly say "I don't do interracial but I want to do a scene with (Mr. Marcus)" or whomever. 
When you get to know someone you stop seeing their color as a defining characteristic. And that's what we should be working on in porn, on both sides of the camera. 

She was one of the few directors that was not labeling her scenes IR and this was back in 2012 back when nobody was doing it, she put her money where her mouth was when she said she did not label her scenes as IR scenes I remember Lily Carter's first was with Mr Marcus for her and she did not advertise it as such and it was one of the reasons Lily did her first for her.   But what I found very interesting was the part where she mentions her casting choices when it came to g/g.  She said that despite the fact fans really did not to see black girls doing g/g she cast them anyway.  She used her power and influence to get these girls in scenes and fans responded in kind and black girls in g/g scenes was seen as more normal.  I

Now if girls wanted to see the IR label to disappear wouldn't employing a similar strategy be a better way to go about things.  If your goal is to normalize IR scenes and have the label go away you don't refuse to do the scenes, by doing that you actually reinforce that the scenes are different. It would seem that very few of these girls are doing that now the girls have more power and sway in the industry than ever before but how many of them shooting stuff for their own sites or manyvids or snaps  or whatever revenue streams they have are shooting with black men.  Or if they get a chance to direct and cast on non IR sites how many of them are are casting black men again few.  I know Whitney Wright has when she wrote her puretaboo scene she wanted Isiah for it.  Also speaking of a woman in porn that used her influence to help a young black performer out Isiah has credited Lisa Ann with helping him get to where he is.  She used her influence to work with him on non ir related sites so he could get his name out there and from what I have seen she is trying to do the same with Rod Jackson.  Are some of the veteran girls who support the ir label disappearing saying to directors "hey there is a new talent I worked with I think he would be great in the scene with me the next time we shoot you should give him a try".  These girls instead of praising Ricky should be looking to help the new little known black male talent like a Rod Jackson or a Sevyan Harden or whoever get more scenes on the non ir sites they shoot with and thus get them noticed by directors.  After all the IR label effects them the most.  I made this point a couple of years ago on adt

"the IR distinction kind of pigeonholes black men in the industry and if a project is not deemed to be IR then you will rarely find a black performer in it. Unless the role calls for a black male specifically or if someone with influence wants a particular performer who happens to be black then for the most part black performers are shut out of scenes. 

You could argue that the IR category actually hurts some of the newer and lesser known black performers. Why would a company go out and hire a newer black performer if they had to pay a girl more to work with him when they could hire a new white guy for and pay her less. When a company does do an IR project they will not go out and get the new guys either because IR productions cost more anyway and male talent has to be reliable and producers go with the guys they know are which is why certain guys are seemingly in everything."


"A lot of times directors seem to cast the performers that they have good working relationships with and because there are many out there that don't shoot IR in any capacity other than WM/BF they most likely don't form the relationships with the black male performer"

So again instead of praising Ricky they should be out there fucking black men on camera at every opportunity they can in non IR situations that would be truly taking a stand towards equality.

Knowing some girls aren't going to do this but Lisa Ann is the only woman who does because she used to own an agency and had a lot of black male talent on his roster. Now an agency like LA Direct isn't going to help black male talent out because we all know Derek Hay is a racist. But it's the directors who pair the girls, and most of them don't even hire black male talent. Like in these Wicked Picture movies how many black male talents you see in their movies, less then often so this is why I don't support companies who don't shoot black men or pair them with a white woman but you see more WM/BF paring in there movies.

Another problem is when these girls speaking on the IR label but at the sametime, I look at there Manyvid and others and you don't see scenes with black men on them. It's another reason why black male talent is treated like shit in the industry from girls who do IR and girls who don't do IR because I don't see them helping black male talent out. I think guys like Prince, Lex, and Sean Michaels would do this because they worked with non-IR sites. Another thing is that most of these white directors who cast black men in non-IR movies really don't give a shit about them or they may be undercover racist like Holly Randall who I don't support
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(05-27-2019, 06:19 AM)J Mac Wrote:
(05-26-2019, 09:04 PM)blkknight1 Wrote: I got to thinking about this even further and it got me thinking.  Years ago Nica Noelle posted this on ADT.

A few different things are going on with respect to race - and racism - in porn.

First of all, the adult industry is inherently and repulsively racist. I always call it the last bastian of blatant, old school racism in western culture. It's disgusting, period. 
And because of the way interracial relationships are often depicted in porn, some girls give their agents a "no interracial" blanket policy. This is so they're not booked for scenes where both races are depicted as vulgar stereotypes to be made fun of, and where the sex is orchestrated in the most demeaning way possible. 
There are several girls with a "no interracial" policy who have made it clear to me that they'll shoot interracial scenes for my studio anytime. Zoe Voss is one of those girls. She just wants to make sure agents aren't booking her for scenes she doesn't feel good about being in. And yes, she has already done an interracial scene for me, with Mickey Mod.
That issue aside, there are many white performers who won't work with black men or women in ANY type of production. Part of this stems from the "conventional wisdom" perpetrated by white men in porn that "If you do interracial you'll never get signed to a contract" or "you'll lose fans" or "you'll stop getting work with the best companies." None of that is true, but many girls still buy into it, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. 
But of course some performers refuse to perform interracial strictly for personal reasons. "I'm just not attracted," they explain (suggesting that they're "always" attracted to their white costars -- highly unlikely!!!)
As with all racism, I think it's just a product of ignorance and fear. And I've seen it on both sides of the camera. For instance, many white girl/girl fans openly expressed a preference for white, girl next door types to be cast. As a result, for years you really didn't see any black women cast in g/g scenes. But early in my g/g career I started casting Nyomi Banxxx, Ms. Platinum and Sincere Lemmore in multiple scenes, and once the fans "got to know" these women, they were requesting them like crazy. 
And it's the same thing with many white performers who "get to know" a black performer and suddenly say "I don't do interracial but I want to do a scene with (Mr. Marcus)" or whomever. 
When you get to know someone you stop seeing their color as a defining characteristic. And that's what we should be working on in porn, on both sides of the camera. 

She was one of the few directors that was not labeling her scenes IR and this was back in 2012 back when nobody was doing it, she put her money where her mouth was when she said she did not label her scenes as IR scenes I remember Lily Carter's first was with Mr Marcus for her and she did not advertise it as such and it was one of the reasons Lily did her first for her.   But what I found very interesting was the part where she mentions her casting choices when it came to g/g.  She said that despite the fact fans really did not to see black girls doing g/g she cast them anyway.  She used her power and influence to get these girls in scenes and fans responded in kind and black girls in g/g scenes was seen as more normal.  I

Now if girls wanted to see the IR label to disappear wouldn't employing a similar strategy be a better way to go about things.  If your goal is to normalize IR scenes and have the label go away you don't refuse to do the scenes, by doing that you actually reinforce that the scenes are different. It would seem that very few of these girls are doing that now the girls have more power and sway in the industry than ever before but how many of them shooting stuff for their own sites or manyvids or snaps  or whatever revenue streams they have are shooting with black men.  Or if they get a chance to direct and cast on non IR sites how many of them are are casting black men again few.  I know Whitney Wright has when she wrote her puretaboo scene she wanted Isiah for it.  Also speaking of a woman in porn that used her influence to help a young black performer out Isiah has credited Lisa Ann with helping him get to where he is.  She used her influence to work with him on non ir related sites so he could get his name out there and from what I have seen she is trying to do the same with Rod Jackson.  Are some of the veteran girls who support the ir label disappearing saying to directors "hey there is a new talent I worked with I think he would be great in the scene with me the next time we shoot you should give him a try".  These girls instead of praising Ricky should be looking to help the new little known black male talent like a Rod Jackson or a Sevyan Harden or whoever get more scenes on the non ir sites they shoot with and thus get them noticed by directors.  After all the IR label effects them the most.  I made this point a couple of years ago on adt

"the IR distinction kind of pigeonholes black men in the industry and if a project is not deemed to be IR then you will rarely find a black performer in it. Unless the role calls for a black male specifically or if someone with influence wants a particular performer who happens to be black then for the most part black performers are shut out of scenes. 

You could argue that the IR category actually hurts some of the newer and lesser known black performers. Why would a company go out and hire a newer black performer if they had to pay a girl more to work with him when they could hire a new white guy for and pay her less. When a company does do an IR project they will not go out and get the new guys either because IR productions cost more anyway and male talent has to be reliable and producers go with the guys they know are which is why certain guys are seemingly in everything."


"A lot of times directors seem to cast the performers that they have good working relationships with and because there are many out there that don't shoot IR in any capacity other than WM/BF they most likely don't form the relationships with the black male performer"

So again instead of praising Ricky they should be out there fucking black men on camera at every opportunity they can in non IR situations that would be truly taking a stand towards equality.

Knowing some girls aren't going to do this but Lisa Ann is the only woman who does because she used to own an agency and had a lot of black male talent on his roster. Now an agency like LA Direct isn't going to help black male talent out because we all know Derek Hay is a racist. But it's the directors who pair the girls, and most of them don't even hire black male talent. Like in these Wicked Picture movies how many black male talents you see in their movies, less then often so this is why I don't support companies who don't shoot black men or pair them with a white woman but you see more WM/BF paring in there movies.

Another problem is when these girls speaking on the IR label but at the sametime, I look at there Manyvid and others and you don't see scenes with black men on them. It's another reason why black male talent is treated like shit in the industry from girls who do IR and girls who don't do IR because I don't see them helping black male talent out. I think guys like Prince, Lex, and Sean Michaels would do this because they worked with non-IR sites.  Another thing is that most of these white directors who cast black men in non-IR movies really don't give a shit about them or they may be undercover racist like Holly Randall who I don't support
Woah! Where did you get the idea Holly Randall was racist, any info on that?
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This recent tweet from Violet Meyers 
https://twitter.com/violetsaucy/status/1...0660415488
As well as the tweet from Rosalyn Sphinx about waiting to do IR until she can get her rates up.  As well as her agent and girls tweeting their support, just tells you the IR label is not going anywhere anytime soon.  A lot of girls and agents do not want it gone, they make more money from it.
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(06-09-2019, 09:15 AM)blkknight1 Wrote: This recent tweet from Violet Meyers 
https://twitter.com/violetsaucy/status/1...0660415488
As well as the tweet from Rosalyn Sphinx about waiting to do IR until she can get her rates up.  As well as her agent and girls tweeting their support, just tells you the IR label is not going anywhere anytime soon.  A lot of girls and agents do not want it gone, they make more money from it.

As long there porn agents, IR is going to be there and companies know they can make money off of there 1st IR because some fans want to see her first time with a black man on film which they don't off it. This is why I blame the whole MeToo/Trump BS. I started to watch more pro-am or amateur IR now than less pro-porn.
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(06-09-2019, 09:15 AM)blkknight1 Wrote: This recent tweet from Violet Meyers 
https://twitter.com/violetsaucy/status/1...0660415488
As well as the tweet from Rosalyn Sphinx about waiting to do IR until she can get her rates up.  As well as her agent and girls tweeting their support, just tells you the IR label is not going anywhere anytime soon.  A lot of girls and agents do not want it gone, they make more money from it.


what did rosalyn tweet?
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